
IEEE 802.11-15 November 2015 Closing Reports Summary
This document summarizes the closing reports of all 802.11 sub-groups presented at the November 2015 plenary meeting. It includes attendance information, liaison reports, and histograms. The report covers various topics discussed in meetings, average attendance, and country-wise participation. Additionally, it provides details on editor meetings, volunteer contacts, and authors involved.
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November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.11 November 2015 Closing Reports Date: 2015-11-12 Authors: Name Adrian Stephens Intel Affiliation Address Phone +44 792 008 4900 (mobile) +1 630-363- 1389 email adrian.p.stephens@intel.com Corporation HPE (Aruba) Dorothy Stanley dstanley@arubanetworks.com Report Slide 1 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Abstract This document is a digest of the closing reports of all 802.11 sub-groups for presentation at the November 2015 closing plenary meeting. Attendance information and liaison reports are also included. Report Slide 2 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 # Mtgs Avg Total Min Max 2 18 1 14 1 12 4 72 8 20 4 7 7 8 7 16 7 22 1 201 11 206 2276 167 254 1 14 1 315 1 18 1 296 4 66 1 233 3 7 3 45 3 57 1 25 2 43 Group ARC Editors Meeting JTC1 TGah TGai TGaj TGak TGaq TGmc WNG TGax CAC Mid-Week Plenary New Members Opening Plenary TGay *Tutorials PAR LRLP TGaz 3GPP Liason Response AdHoc Joint Meeting with .15 REG 36 14 12 291 162 30 56 115 157 201 17 19 Attendance 14 152 10 6 4 5 18 32 10 14 42 27 14 315 18 296 265 233 21 135 173 25 87 52 82 5 11 60 35 26 106 36 51 Report Slide 3 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Attendance Total Report Slide 4 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Attendance Histogram (Thu) Report Slide 5 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
Attendance by Country November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Report Slide 6 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.11 WG Editor s Meeting (Nov 15) Date: 2015-11-08 Authors: Name Peter Ecclesine Affiliation Cisco Systems Address 170 W. Tasman Dr., MS SJ-14-4, San Jose, CA 95134- 1706 Phone +1-408-527-0815 email petere@cisco.com Report Slide 7 from slide 1/6 of 11-15-1286 by Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Volunteer Editor Contacts TGmc Adrian Stephens adrian.p.stephens@intel.com, Edward Au edward.ks.au@huawei.com, Emily Qi emily.h.qi@intel.com TGah Yongho Seok yongho.seok@gmail.com, Alfred Asterjadhi aasterja@qti.qualcomm.com TGai Lee Armstrong LRA@tiac.net, Ping FANG Ping.FANG@huawei.com TGaj Jiamin CHEN jiamin.chen@mail01.huawei.com , Shiwen He shiwenhe@seu.edu.cn TGak Donald Eastlake d3e3e3@gmail.com, Norm Finn nfinn@cisco.com TGaq Lee Armstrong LRA@tiac.net TGax Robert Stacey robert.stacey@intel.com TGay Carlos Cordeiro carlos.cordeiro@intel.com Editors Emeritus: TGaa Alex Ashley alex.ashley@hotmail.co.uk TGac Robert Stacey robert.stacey@intel.com TGad Carlos Cordeiro carlos.cordeiro@intel.com TGae Henry Ptasinski henry@LOGOUT.COM TGaf Peter Ecclesine pecclesi@cisco.com TGaq Dan Gal ddrgal@gmail.com Report Slide 8 from slide 2/6 of 11-15-1286 by Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.11 Style Guide See 11-09-1034-11-0000-wg11-style-guide.doc We updated 802.11 WG Style Guide based on 2012 IEEE Standards Style Manual and consistency changes in final publication of the 802.11 standard Editor s responsibility includes checking the 2014 IEEE Standards Style Manual when creating or updating drafts. https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Publi c/mytools/draft/styleman.pdf Submissions with draft text should conform to both the WG11 Style Guide and IEEE Standards Style Manual Note that the Style Guide evolves with our practice Report Slide 9 from slide 3/6 of 11-15-1286 by Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Editor Amendment Ordering Data as of Nov 2015 See http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Reports/802.11_Timelines.htm In Nov 2015, Editors changed the running order and will revisit in July 2016, maintaining this order in the interim Amendment Number Task Group Projected REVCOM Date 802.11REVmc TGmc - 3718 Jan 2017 802.11-2016 Amendment 1 TGai - 168 Jan 2017 802.11-2016 Amendment 2 TGah - 598 Jan 2017 802.11-2016 Amendment 3 TGaq - 30 Jan 2017 802.11-2016 Amendment 4 TGak - 79 Jan 2017 802.11-2016 Amendment 5 TGaj - 174 Jun 2017 802.11-2016 Amendment 6 TGax Mar 2019 Amendment numbering is editorial! No need to make ballot comments on these dynamic numbers! Report Slide 10 from slide 4/6 of 11-15-1286 by Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Draft Development Snapshot Nov 2015 Published or Draft Baseline Documents Style Guide Snapshot Date TG Source MDR Editor Publ ished Y mc ai ah aq ak aj a x a y a z Frame 12.0 Yes 2012 Adrian Stephens Edward Au, Emily Qi Lee Armstrong Ping FANG Yongho Seok Alfred Asterjadhi Lee Armstrong 7-Nov mc 4.3 Frame 12.0 Yes 2012 8-Nov ai N 4.0 6.2 Frame 11.0 Yes 2012 6-Nov ah N 4.0 5.0 Frame 12.0 No 2012 8-Nov aq N 4.0 3.0 Word No 2012 Donald Eastlake Norm Finn Jiamin Chen Shiwen He Robert Stacey 8-Nov ak N 4.0 1.3 Frame 10.0 No 2012 12-Nov aj N 1.0 No 2012 12-May ax ay az Y No 2012 Carlos Cordeiro 6-Nov Changes from last report shown in red. Most current doc shaded green. Report Slide 11 from slide 5/6 of 11-15-1286 by Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 MIB style, Visio and Frame practices I m going to suggest going forward we use a single style with appropriately set tabs, and use leading Tabs to distinguish the syntax and description parts. (Adrian Stephens Feb 9, 2010) Figure in an anchored frame within a table, and use a table caption as a figure caption Keep embedded figures using visio as long as possible Near the end of sponsor ballot, turn these all into .wmf (windows meta file) format files (you can do this from visio using save as ). Keep separate files for the .vsd source and the .wmf file that is linked to from frame. There is likelihood we should use .emf Frame templates for 11aa, 11ac, 11af Text version of MIB is available (2012, ae2012, aa2012, ad2012, acD5.0, afD5.0. mcD3.0) Report Slide 12 from slide 6/6 of 11-15-1286 by Peter Ecclesine (Cisco Systems) Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 ARC Closing Report Date: 2015-11-11 Authors: Name Mark Hamilton Ruckus Wireless Affiliations Address 350 W. Java Dr. Sunnyvale, CA 94089 Phone +1-303- 818-8472 email mark.hamilton@ruckuswi reless.com Report Slide 13 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 1/6 of 11-15-1438 by Mark Hamilton (Ruckus)
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Abstract This document is the closing report for ARC SC, November 2015, Dallas meeting Report Slide 14 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 2/6 of 11-15-1438 by Mark Hamilton (Ruckus)
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Work Completed Agenda is here: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/15/11-15- 1234-03-0arc-arc-sc-agenda-nov-2015.ppt DS-SAP and Annex R as normative text approved 11-15-0555-06-0arc-normative-ds-sap-proposal.docx Approved by REVmc for roll in to next Draft IETF concerns about 802.11 multicast Reviewed 11-15-1261-03-0arc-multicast-performance-optimization- features-overview-for-ietf-nov-2015.ppt Noted future work is expected, no action at this time REVmc Figure 5-1: 11-15-0540-05-0arc-updates-to-revmc-5- 1-5.docx Continued review of Figures 5-1, et seq, in REVmc D4.0, in response to Sponsor Ballot comment Agreed AP and Mesh STA structure diagrams Started discussion on Mesh Gate, to be continued Report Slide 15 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 3/6 of 11-15-1438 by Mark Hamilton (Ruckus)
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Work Completed 802.11 as a component Presentation: 11-15-1376-00-0arc-update-on-3gpp-ran3- multi-rat-joint-coordination.pptx Long discussion on different views of network components and structure: 3GPP RAN3 view 5G view ? OmniRAN view Device centric versus application/user centric To be continued MIB Design Pattern work item: No progress this week Joint meeting with TGak: Started discussion on DS relationship to 802.1Q bridges. Where are the DS brains? Report Slide 16 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 4/6 of 11-15-1438 by Mark Hamilton (Ruckus)
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Teleconference(s) One planned. Joint with TGaq to discuss architectural comments on their LB. Dec 1, 13:00 ET, 90 minutes. Any others will schedule with 10 days notice, if needed Report Slide 17 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 5/6 of 11-15-1438 by Mark Hamilton (Ruckus)
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 January 2016 Plans Two standalone meeting slots planned: 802.11 as a component in a larger eco-system Design Pattern for MIB attribute use 802.11 Architecture topics: Figure 5-1 et seq DS/AP/Portal architecture discussions One joint session with TGak 802.11ak architecture discussions: GLK ESS concept Where are a DS s brains? Report Slide 18 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 6/6 of 11-15-1438 by Mark Hamilton (Ruckus)
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.11 PAR Review SC November 2015 Date: 2015-11-12 Authors: Name Jon Rosdahl Affiliations CSR Technologies Inc a Qualcomm Company Address 10871 N 5750 W Highland, UT 84003 Phone +1-801-492-4023 jrosdahl@ieee.org email Report Slide 19 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 1/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Abstract-Snapshot Review of Proposed 802 PAR documents -- Nov 8-13, Dallas, TX, USA 1. 802d - Amendment: URN Namespace, PAR and CSD 2. 802.1CQ- Standard: Multicast and Local Address Assignment, PAR and CSD 3. 802.3ca - Amendment, 25 Gb/s and 100 Gb/s Passive Optical Networks, PAR and CSD 4. 802.3cb - Amendment, 2.5 Gb/s and 5 Gb/s Operation over Backplane and Copper Cables , PAR and CSD 5. 802.15.3d - 100Gbps wireless switched point-to-point physical layer, PAR Modification and 5C 6. 802.15.4t Standard: Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR-WPANs) Amendment for a High(er) Rate Physical (PHY) Layer, PAR and CSD 7. 802.15.4u Amendment, Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR- WPANs) Amendment for use of the Indian 865-867 MHz band. PAR and CSD 8. 802.16s - Amendment, Fixed and Mobile Wireless Access in Channel Sizes up to 1.25 MHz, PAR and CSD Meeting times: Monday PM2, Tuesday AM2, Thursday AM2 Report Slide 20 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 2/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 PAR Review SC November 2015 Chair: Jon Rosdahl Draft Agenda: Monday Agenda: 1. Welcome 2. .Nominations for Vice Chair/Secretary 3. Determine order of review 4. Review PARs/CSD posted for review this week. 5. Recess Tuesday Agenda: 1. Determine Vice Chair/Secretary for this week and beyond 2. Complete review of PARs/CSD and post comments to 802 WGs 3. Recess Thursday Agenda: 1. Review Response to Comments 2. Prepare Report for 802.11 WG closing plenary 3. Adjourn Report Slide 21 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 3/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 PAR Review Comments Report Slide 22 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 4/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.15.3d - 100Gbps wireless switched point-to-point physical layer, PAR Modification and 5C 2.1, 5.2a, 5.2b and 5.5: Use of Mbps or Gbps should be Mb/s and Gb/s 5.2a and 5.2b seem to be orders of magnitude different in the expected speeds and bands covered. Should the Scope be amended by this amendment to include the extra bands and speeds? An Amendment is a good time to adjust the scope of the base standard. 5.5 missing comma In data centers wireless links ---- 5.5 extra comma with high probability, is ---- 8.1 5.2b delete the in intended the frequency bands 8.1 5.5 - missing comma in kiosk-downloading the link Report Slide 23 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 5/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.15.4t Standard: Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR- WPANs) Amendment for a High(er) Rate Physical (PHY) Layer, PAR and CSD 2.1 Need to include range for High(er) (See NesCom Conventions: 6. Quantification of the Ranges of Numeric Values For PARs for new projects, standards developers who use general terms to represent ranges (e.g. high, medium, low) within the title, scope, or purpose, shall numerically define such ranges where they first appear (title, scope, or purpose, as applicable). ) 5.2a change devices operating various license-free to devices operating in various license-free 5.2a What is the battery consumption requirements (car battery or coin cell for example)? 5.2.b Change Mbps to Mb/s Report Slide 24 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 6/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 15.4t CSD Title page: should it include the name of the amendment? 1.1.1 change Definitions were already and part of this standard to Definitions were already a part of this standard. Report Slide 25 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 7/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.15.4u Amendment, Low-Rate Wireless Personal Area Networks (LR- WPANs) Amendment for use of the Indian 865-867 MHz band. PAR and CSD 2.1 Change the Indian 865-867 MHz band to the 865- 867 MHz band in India. 5.5 Suggest use W for watts 5.5 Change: released a draft an Internet of Things Policy to released a draft Internet of Things Policy Report Slide 26 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 8/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 15.4u CSD Title page: should it include the name of the amendment? It would help the reader when looking at CSD to be self-defined. 1.1.1 change Definitions were already and part of this standard to Definitions were already a part of this standard 1.2.5 a) change This project can be implement with to This project can be implemented with 1.2.5 a) Add comma prior to which Report Slide 27 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 9/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s - Amendment, Fixed and Mobile Wireless Access in Channel Sizes up to 1.25 MHz, PAR and CSD In 2014, 802.16 was in the process of closing down open projects. What evidence do we have for the support of a new project? 5.1 We do not believe that there are 15 interested parties when 802.16 has only 6 members. There may not be enough interest to support this new project. Are you expecting a lot of cross interest from the Micro-wave society? 7.1 3GPP develops NB-IOT (narrow band LTE for Internet of Things) which is similar in scope to this project scope from 5.2b: This system profile will specify operation in exclusively-licensed spectrum with channel sizes up to 1.25 MHz, including 1 MHz explicitly . How is this project different from the 3GPP case? Slide 28 Report Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 10/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s CSD 1.2.1 a) How does this project justify the claimed market share of the cited studies, given that this appears to be one of many technologies in this competitive market place? 1.2.1 b) given that there are only 6 members of 802.16, that does not appear to match the list of Multiple Vendors and numerous users categories, what evidence of interests is there from participants in each category? 1.2.1 This response could be enhanced by including and building on the statement from 1.2.4 b) At least five utilities in the US have either deployed or are testing a proprietary system based on a variation of IEEE 802.16 technology. 1.2.4 Concern that the statements are somewhat vague. Is there evidence that could be identified for the cited systems? How much of a variation in the system is cited? Could supporting documents be cited from 802.16 document repository? Report Slide 29 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 11/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802d - Amendment: URN Namespace, PAR and CSD 1.1 Correct Project number P802d 2.1 Expand first use of Abbreviation Uniform Resource Names (URN) 5.2.b Change bridges and end stations to 802 Network elements . This is to avoid the need to list all types of devices, e.g. Access Points (AP), switches etc. 8.1 #5.5 delete second sentence, YANG does not appear in the title. 8.1 #7.3A delete with communication with JTC1 through existing channels , or remove the entire comment as 7.3 does not appear on the PDF of the PAR. Report Slide 30 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 12/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802d CSD 1.1.1 This project may be apply to more than 802.1Q, change 802.1Q to 802 . Report Slide 31 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 13/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.1CQ- Standard: Multicast and Local Address Assignment, PAR and CSD 2.1 change Addresses to Address 5.6 change last sentence to read: This includes software developers, networking equipment vendors IC developers, bridge and NIC vendors, and users. CSD: Slide 9: spell out CIDs Company Identifier (CID) CSD: Slide 9: identify properly where the address is coming from.. Change RAC to IEEE-SA Registration Authority . Report Slide 32 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 14/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.3ca - Amendment, 25 Gb/s and 100 Gb/s Passive Optical Networks, PAR and CSD No comment or issues identified. Report Slide 33 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 15/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.3cb - Amendment, 2.5 Gb/s and 5 Gb/s Operation over Backplane and Copper Cables , PAR and CSD No comment or issues identified. CSD Slide 5: Well Done -- Report Slide 34 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 16/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Motion to accept feedback Move to accept the feedback in 11-15/1212r2 (slides 5- 16) as the feedback on the proposed PARs for the November 2015 Plenary. Moved: Andrew Myles 2nd: Dorothy Stanley Results: 4-0-0 motion passes Report Slide 35 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 17/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 Responses From 802 WGs Report Slide 36 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 18/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.1 Thanks to all who reviewed the IEEE 802d PAR and CSD. The updated 802d PAR has been pre-submitted to NesCom and as a result, only the NesCom admin can currently change the PAR. A request to update the PAR has been made based on this change bar version: http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/new-parsons-URN-Namespace- PAR-1115.pdf The CSD has been updated as follows: http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/new-parsons-URN-Namespace- CSD-1115.pdf The consolidated comments received from 802.3, 802.11, 802.16 and James Gilb, along with resolutions are here: http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/new-parsons-URN-Namespace- PAR-comments-1115-v01.pdf Cheers, Glenn. Report Slide 37 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 19/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802d - Amendment: URN Namespace, PAR and CSD 1.1 Correct Project number P802d - Agree 2.1 Expand first use of Abbreviation Uniform Resource Names (URN) - Agree 5.2.b Change bridges and end stations to 802 Network elements . This is to avoid the need to list all types of devices, e.g. Access Points (AP), switches etc. - Agree 8.1 #5.5 delete second sentence, YANG does not appear in the title. - Agree 8.1 #7.3A delete with communication with JTC1 through existing channels , or remove the entire comment as 7.3 does not appear on the PDF of the PAR. Agree. 7.3 exists and does not appear due to staff choice so this note is not necessary Report Slide 38 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 20/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802d CSD 1.1.1 This project may be apply to more than 802.1Q, change 802.1Q to 802 . - Agree Report Slide 39 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 21/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.1CQ Thanks to all who reviewed the IEEE 802.1CQ PAR and CSD. The consolidated comments with responses are posted at: http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/dcb-thaler-1cq-comments- 1115.pdf The PAR with changes marked up is at: http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/dcb-thaler-1CQ-par-local- address-prot-1115-v0.pdf and the updated CSD is at: http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/public/docs2015/dcb-thaler-1CQ-csd-local- address-prot-1115.pdf Regards, Pat Report Slide 40 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 22/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.1CQ- Standard: Multicast and Local Address Assignment, PAR and CSD 2.1 change Addresses to Address - Accept 5.6 change last sentence to read: This includes software developers, networking equipment vendors IC developers, bridge and NIC vendors, and users. - Accept CSD: Slide 9: spell out CIDs Company Identifier (CID) Will expand to Company ID which is the RAC name for the identifiers CSD: Slide 9: identify properly where the address is coming from.. Change RAC to IEEE-SA Registration Authority . Slide 41 Report - Accept Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 23/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.3 The updated IEEE P802.3ca PAR can be access at <http://www.ieee802.org/3/NGEPONSG/documents/P802_3ca_PAR_111115.pdf> The unchanged IEEE P802.3ca CSD can be access at <http://www.ieee802.org/3/NGEPONSG/documents/100gepon_CSD.pdf> The IEEE P802.3ca comment responses can be accessed at <http://www.ieee802.org/secmail/msg19576.html> The updated IEEE P802.3cb PAR can be access at <http://www.ieee802.org/3/CU4HDDSG/P802_3cb_PAR_280915a.pdf> The updated IEEE P802.3cb CSD can be access at <http://www.ieee802.org/3/CU4HDDSG/CU4HDD%20SG-CSD-v1-2.pdf> The IEEE P802.3cb comment responses can be accessed at <http://www.ieee802.org/secmail/msg19569.html> Report Slide 42 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 24/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s Thanks to those who submitted comments on the draft P802.16s PAR. Please see: P802.16s Draft PAR: Comments and Responses https://mentor.ieee.org/802.16/dcn/15/16-15-0050-00.pdf Draft P802.16s PAR https://mentor.ieee.org/802.16/dcn/15/16-15-0051-00.pdf Draft P802.16s CSD https://mentor.ieee.org/802.16/dcn/15/16-15-0052-00.pdf Comments and responses are also consolidated in a table at: http://comments16s.wirelessman.org Roger Report Slide 43 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 25/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16 responses: 802.11 Comment: In 2014, 802.16 was in the process of closing down open projects. What evidence do we have for the support of a new project? Response: There is a clear market requirement and interest in this work. Over 100 utilities have deployed 802.16 to support their grid operations. Changes to the 3.65 GHz band have left utilities looking for other options for licensed spectrum. The 700 MHz upper A block has been purchased by some utilities, but the 1 MHz channel width is not currently supported by any standard. 23 people, from four utilities, five equipment vendors, and several other organizations attended the teleconferences to develop this PAR. Please see 802.16-15-0049-00-Gdoc and scroll down to the attendance list. Report Slide 44 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 26/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s 5.1 802.11 Comment: We do not believe that there are 15 interested parties when 802.16 has only 6 members. There may not be enough interest to support this new project. Are you expecting a lot of cross interest from the Microwave Society? Response: 23 people, from four utilities, five equipment vendors, and several other organizations attended the teleconferences to develop this PAR. Please see 802.16-15-0049-00-Gdoc and scroll down to the attendance list. The equipment vendors have expressed their intention to actively participate in the development, in addition to existing members of 802.16. We also expect a few participants from academic and international research institutes. Report Slide 45 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 27/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s 7.1 802.11 Comment: 3GPP develops NB-IOT (narrow band LTE for Internet of Things) which is similar in scope to this project scope from 5.2b: This system profile will specify operation in exclusively-licensed spectrum with channel sizes up to 1.25 MHz, including 1 MHz explicitly . How is this project different from the 3GPP case? Response: NB-IOT is not of similar scope. This project is to amend the 802.16 standard. 3GPP standards are not compatible with the 802.16 standard. Report Slide 46 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 28/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16 1.2.1 a) 802.11 Comment: a) How does this project justify the claimed market share of the cited studies, given that this appears to be one of many technologies in this competitive market place? Response: The statistic in 1.2.1 is not claiming a projected market for this amendment - it is an example of the overall market size. The marketplace for network infrastructure suitable for critical applications that supports narrow channels is competitive, but currently offers only proprietary solutions. The industry desires a standard to allow choice of vendors and better control of the product lifecycle Report Slide 47 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 29/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s 1.2.1 b) 802.11 Comment: b) given that there are only 6 members of 802.16, that does not appear to match the list of Multiple Vendors and numerous users categories, what evidence of interests is there from participants in each category? Response: 23 people, from four utilities, five equipment vendors, and several other organizations attended the teleconferences to develop this PAR. Please see 802.16-15-0049-00-Gdoc and scroll down to the attendance list. The equipment vendors have expressed their intention to actively participate in the development, in addition to existing members of 802.16. We also expect a few participants from academic and international research institutes. Report Slide 48 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 30/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s 1.2.1 802.11 Comment: This response could be enhanced by including and building on the statement from 1.2.4 b) At least five utilities in the US have either deployed or are testing a proprietary system based on a variation of IEEE 802.16 technology. Response: Salt River Project and Great River Energy have explicitly indicated their support by posting to Mentor and on the 802.16 reflector. Puget Sound Electric and BC Hydro (Power Tech Labs) have been involved in the PAR definition process. Several other utilities are in phases of negotiation and are not publically expressing their interest at this time. Proposed Change: Add text to CSD 1.2.1b: Six posts expressing support for this standardization activity have been posted to 802.16 Mentor and the 802.16 reflector Report Slide 49 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 31/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm
November 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/1227r0 802.16s -1.2.4 802.11 Comment: Concern that the statements are somewhat vague. Is there evidence that could be identified for the cited systems? How much of a variation in the system is cited? Could supporting documents be cited from 802.16 document repository? Response: The proprietary system used as an example of feasibility is described in 802.16 contribution 802.16-15-0035-00-Gcon. Other vendors have somewhat different approaches that will be considered in the Task Group. Proposed Change: Add reference to this document to CSD: "See 802.16 contribution 802.16-15-0035-00-Gcon for further details." Report Slide 50 Adrian Stephens, Intel Corporation from slide 32/46 by Jon Rosdahl, CSR-Qualcomm