
IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 ITU Liaison Ad Hoc Group Agenda Jan 2023
Explore the agenda for the IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 ITU Liaison Ad Hoc Group meeting in January 2023. Get insights into the discussion topics, rules, reminders, and guidelines for IEEE-SA meetings. Participation details and resources available.
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Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 ITU Liaison Ad Hoc Group Agenda Date: 2023-18-01 Authors: Name Affiliations Address Phone email 3600 Juliette Ln Santa Clara, CA 95054 Hassan Yaghoobi Intel Corp. hassan.yaghoobi at intel.com Bluetooth SIG Rich Kennedy 7305 Napier Trail rkennedy1000@gmail.com Agenda Slide 1 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Abstract Agenda for: 802.11 ITU AHG (ITU Liaison Ad Hoc Group) January 19, 2023 Chair: Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.) Secretary: Richard Kennedy (Bluetooth SIG) Agenda Slide 2 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Reminders and Rules Reminders to attendees: Please record your attendance Please mute any noise making devices No recordings Rules No formal rules agree to our own process No motions (straw polls are okay) Participation in the ITU AHG at this meeting counts towards 802.11 voting rights; capture your attendance on IMAT https://imat.ieee.org/attendance Agenda Slide 3 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt Agenda Slide 4 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Resources URLs Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf Link to IEEE Code of Ethics http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Link to IEEE Patent Policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Agenda Slide 5 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group, Working Group subgroup, etc.) is on an individual basis Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1) IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives . (subclause 4.2.1 Establishment , of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1.3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3.4.1 Chair , list item x. By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. (Latest revision of IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures: http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml) Agenda Slide 6 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Agenda 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. Administrative: Reminders, Rules, Guidelines, Resources Roll Call Approval of Agenda Approval of Minutes of Previous Meeting Contributions a. N/A Discussion Items a. Output documents of WP5A Nov 2022 Updates from ITU-R WP5A a. N/A Ad Hoc Endorsement a. N/A Plan for going forward 10. Any Other Business? 11. Next Meetings 6. 7. 8. 9. Agenda Slide 7 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Approval of Minutes of Previous Meeting Minutes for December 06, 2022 Meeting https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/23/11-23-0082-00-0itu-itu-ahg-minutes-for-december-6- 2022-meeting.docx Agenda Slide 8 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Contributions New Contributions a. N/A Contribution for Further Discussion a. N/A References N/A Agenda Slide 9 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Discussion: Output documents of WP5A Nov 2022 (1/5) Word [708] - Report on the twenty-eighth meeting of Working Party 5A RLAN & BWA standards: Continued the development of a working document towards a preliminary draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 Characteristics of broadband radio local area networks (Annex 9 to Doc. 5A/708). No contributions were received at the 29th meeting toward developing the working document towards a preliminary draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.1801-2 Radio interface standards for broadband wireless access systems, including mobile and nomadic applications, in the mobile service operating below 6 GHz (Annex 16 to Doc. 5A/597). Some members are of the view that sharing studies should be performed before characteristics or standards can be recommended and other members are of the view that the systems would operate under an allocated radiocommunication service in accordance with the RR, so sharing studies should only be considered on a case-by-case basis when needed. Hassan Yaghoobi(Intel Corp.) Agenda Slide 10
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Discussion: Output documents of WP5A Nov 2022 (2/5) Objectives for the twenty-ninth meeting of WP 5A The principal objective for the 29th meeting of Working Party 5A is to continue the work that may need to be conducted by WP 5A in support of the preparations for WRC-23 and to continue the work on the study questions assigned to WP 5A. 2) Systems and standards Development of working document towards a preliminary draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 Characteristics of broadband radio local area networks (Annex 9 to Doc. 5A/708). Development of working document towards a preliminary draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.1801-2 Radio interface standards for broadband wireless access systems, including mobile and nomadic applications, in the mobile service operating below 6 GHz (Annex 16 to Doc. 5A/597). 4) Interference and sharing Progress the ongoing revision of Report ITU-R M.2116, in particular for WAS/RLAN parameters for the 6 GHz range (Annex 15 to Doc. 5A/708). Hassan Yaghoobi(Intel Corp.) Agenda Slide 11
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Discussion: Output documents of WP5A Nov 2022 (3/5) M.1801: Since there were no contributions on the revision of Rec. ITU-R M.1801 Doc. 5A/597 Annex 16 is carried forward to the next meeting by reference (Carried Over) Rep. ITU-R M.[BB-WAS-FREQ]: There is no consensus on the progression of Rep. ITU-R M.[BB-WAS-FREQ] Some members expressed the view that frequencies of operation of the BWA standards should not be included either in Rec. ITU-R M.1801 or in a separate ITU-R Report (currently Rec. ITU-R M.1801 does not include information on frequencies of operation, except by reference to the standards). The input documents are carried forward to future meetings by reference for further discussion. 597 Annex 17 (WP 5A), 654 (Canada), 675 (IEEE) No mentioning of this document as an objective for next WP 5A meeting! Hassan Yaghoobi(Intel Corp.) Agenda Slide 12
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Discussion: Output documents of WP5A Nov 2022 (4/5) [708] Annex 9 - Working document towards a preliminary draft revision of Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 - Characteristics of broadband radio local area networks Word M.1450: On the proposed revision of Rec. ITU-R M.1450-5, some members expressed the need to conduct sharing and compatibility studies before the Recommendation can be revised, while other members indicated that the frequency bands where the recommended standards can operate are already allocated to the mobile service and sharing studies are not needed before adding new standards to a standards document. Where administrations or other working parties are interested in studying the compatibility between RLANs based on new standards and other uses, one option would be to include sharing parameters and scenarios in a revision of Report ITU-R M.2116 Characteristics of broadband wireless access systems operating in the land mobile service for use in sharing studies (cf. Annex XX to Doc. 5A/xyz [ex-Doc. 5A/TEMP/266]). Members are invited to contribute to that respect. The SWG created a drafting group, chaired by Ms. Patricia Paoletta (USA), to develop further the working document towards a preliminary draft revision of Rec. ITU-R M.1450-5 by including the specific proposals in the input contributions. The proposed revisions were included in the working document to reflect the new mandatory format for Recommendations, which will necessitate updating of references to the existing Tables and any retained Notes. Some streamlining of the different options for revising ITU-R M.1450 s recommends was achieved. However, there is no consensus on the need to conduct sharing and compatibility standards before the Recommendation can be revised. Slide 13 Hassan Yaghoobi(Intel Corp.) Agenda
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Discussion: Output documents of WP5A Nov 2022 (5/5) Word [708] Annex 9 Part 1 Some participants were of the opinion that such updates should be included in a revision upon receipt, because reference to frequency bands integral to standards does not confer any regulatory status in a standards document. Such commenters stated during the DG that if such new technical standard will be recommended for use in a new frequency band before ITU-R studies has been conducted, that the usage condition must be strictly limited in the recommends. Others noted that administrations have the right to implement RLANs in the frequency bands allocated to mobile services in the Radio Regulations, and were concerned that limiting RLANs usage, as proposed in some options for revising the recommends, would impose limitations on that right. Annex to the WP 5A Chairman s Report of the 28th meeting: Doc. 5A/TEMP/256 The final compilation document has an embedded companion document that shows the current in force recommends from Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 (2014), as well as the four options for the preliminary draft Revision s recommends, without track changes, for ease of viewing. [708] Annex 9 Part 1 Hassan Yaghoobi(Intel Corp.) Agenda Slide 14
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Updates from ITU-R WP5A N/A Agenda Slide 15 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Ad Hoc Approval N/A Agenda Slide 16 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Plan for Going Forward, New Business, Next Meeting Call for contributions on recommendations on latest M.1450, M.1801 working drafts and other subjects based on the output of WP5A Nov 2022 Working Party 5A Next Meeting Dates 2023-05-08 to 2023-05-19 Next ITU AHG Meeting: TBD Any New Business? Agenda Slide 17 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Appendix ITU AHG Background Material 1. ITU-R M.1450-5 (R-REC-M.1450-5-201404-I!!PDF-E): Characteristics of broadband radio local area networks, (02/2014) https://mentor.ieee.org/802.18/dcn/19/18-19-0157-00-0000-an-update-on-the-recommendation-itu-r-m-1450-5.pptx 2. ITU-R M.1801-2 (R-REC-M.1801-2-201302-I!!PDF-E): Radio interface standards for broadband wireless access systems, including mobile and nomadic applications, in the mobile service operating below 6 GHz, (02/2013) https://www.itu.int/dms_pubrec/itu-r/rec/m/R-REC-M.1801-2-201302-I!!PDF-E.pdf IEEE 802 contributions to WP5A Decy 2020 Meeting under agenda item RLAN characteristics 1. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 [44] 2. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1801-2 [43] IEEE 802 contributions to WP5A Nov 2020 Meeting under agenda item RLAN characteristics 1. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 [154] 2. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1801-2 [153] IEEE 802 contributions to WP5A April-May 2021 Meeting under agenda item RLAN characteristics 1. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 [ 245 ] 2. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1801-2 [ 246 ] IEEE 802 contributions to WP5A Nov 2021 Meeting under agenda item RLAN characteristics 1. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1801-2 [ 439 ] 2. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 [ 438 ] IEEE 802 contributions to WP5A May-Jun 2022 Meeting under agenda item RLAN characteristics 1. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1801-2 [ 547 ] 2. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 [ 546 ] IEEE 802 contributions to WP5A Nov 2022 Meeting under agenda item RLAN characteristics 1. IEEE 802 S VIEWS ON ANNEX 17 TO DOCUMENT 5A/597[675] 2. Proposed modification to Recommendation ITU-R M.1450-5 [674] Agenda Slide 18 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)
Jan 2023 doc.: IEEE 802.11-22/2189r0 Backup Agenda Slide 19 Hassan Yaghoobi (Intel Corp.)