IEEE 802.11 Next Generation Positioning Study Group Agenda May 2015
Explore the IEEE 802.11 Next Generation Positioning Study Group agenda for the May 2015 session chaired by Jonathan Segev. Get detailed insights on attendance, voting status, and logistics for the event in Vancouver, Canada. Ensure compliance with IEEE-SA meeting guidelines for a successful session.
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May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 NGP SG May Agenda Date: 05-12-2015 Authors: Name Company Address Phone Email Jonathan Segev Intel Corporation jonathan.segev@intel.com Submission Slide 1 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 IEEE 802.11 Next Generation Positioning Study Group Vancouver, Canada May 10th-15th , 2015 Chair: Jonathan Segev (Intel) Secretary: James Wang (MediaTek, standing-in) Submission Slide 2 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Abstract This presentation contains the IEEE 802.11 NGP (Next Generation Positioning) Study Group agenda for the May session. Submission Slide 3 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Attendance, Voting & Document Status Make sure your badges are correct Please announce your affiliation when you first address the group during a meeting slot If you plan to make a submission be sure it does not contain company logos or advertising Questions on Voting status, Ballot pool, Access to Reflector, Documentation, member s area see Jon Rosdahl Jon.Rosdahl@csr.com Cell Phones Silent or Off Submission Slide 4 Slide 4 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Logistics Attendance: https://imat.ieee.org You must register before logging attendance. You must log attendance during each 2 hour session. Documentation http://mentor.ieee.org Use NGP folder for documents relating to the NGP SG activity. Submission Slide 5 Slide 5 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. l Don t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. l Don t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. l Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. l Technical considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. l l Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. l Don t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed do formally object. l --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt March 2015 IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Submission
doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2]: Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of each holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Submission
doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/materials.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.ppt Submission Slide #2
doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Submission
doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy for more details. Submission
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Submission Slide 11 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Current IEEE-SA Rules The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws is available at: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/index.html (HTML version) http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf (PDF version) The current version of the IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual is available at: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/index.html (HTML version) http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sb_om.pdf (PDF version) The text of the changes made to these documents (approved by SASB/BOG in 2014) can be found at: http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/policy_rev.pdf Please read through these changes so that you are familiar with the current P&P. Slide 12 Submission Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Current IEEE 802 Procedures IEEE 802 Policies & Procedures (link to AudCom, approved by IEEE-SA Standards Board Dec 2012) http://standards.ieee.org/board/aud/LMSC.pdf IEEE 802 Operations Manual (effective 16 Nov 2012), http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/PNP/approved/IEEE_802_OM_v11.pdf IEEE 802 Working Group Policies and Procedures (effective 16 Nov 2012) http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/PNP/approved/IEEE_802_WG_PandP_v12.pdf IEEE 802.11 WG OM: (Approved January 2015) https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/14/11-14-0629-10-0000-802-11-operations-manual.docx Policies and Procedures hierarchy http://www.ieee802.org/11/Rules/rules.shtml Submission Slide 13 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Resources URLs Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf Link to IEEE Code of Ethics http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Link to IEEE Patent Policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Submission Slide 14 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Reminder of SG rules The Next Generation Positioning SG operates under the rules defined in the 802 LMSC Policy & Procedures subclause 5.3, 802 LMSC Operations Manual subclause 4.3, and 802.11 Operations Manual clause 5 Participation is open to all 802.11 voting rights is NOT required to attend, participate, motion and vote on NGP SG matters All votes on motions require 75% approval to pass Submission Slide 15 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 NGP SG Schedule in a Glance MON TUE NGP WED NGP THU NGP FRI AM1 AM2 PM1 PM2 Submission Slide 16 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Agenda Items for the Week Patent policy Approve previous meeting minutes (11-15/474r0). Approve minutes from telecon (11-15/524r1) Presentations to inform the SG in its effort to develop PAR & CSD, such as: Continued development of the use case documents. Problems statements Scope and purpose Draft PAR and CSD submissions review. Approval of PAR and CSD for WG review and approval. Schedule teleconference times as needed. Submission Slide 17 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Submission List for the week Document No. Presenter Title Topic 11-15/0499 Jonathan Segev NGP May 2015 Agenda Agenda Deck 11-15/030 Brian Hart Working draft PAR modifications from telecon approval PAR 11-15/0262 Brian Hart Working draft CSD modifications from telecon approval CSD 11-15/0561 Thomas Handte Selected use cases for next generation positioning Use case 11-15/0629 Igal Kotzer Automotive Use case Use cases 11-15/0634 Ganesh Venkatesan Additions to use case document Use case 11-15/0644 Ganesh Venkatesan preliminary simulation results on AoA accuracy in 2.4/5GHz band technical Submission Slide 18 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Meeting Slot #1 Submission Slide 19 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Meeting Slot # 1 Agenda Call Meeting to Order (1min) Patent Policy and Logistics (5min) Call for Submission (3min) Agenda Setting (5min) Approval of previous meeting minutes (2min) Approval of telecon meeting minutes (3min) Approval of PAR changes presented on telecon (15min) Approval of CSD changes presented on telecon (15min) Review of PAR and CSD proposed changes (45min) Recess Submission Slide 20 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Submission order Slot 1 Document No. Presenter Title Topic 11-15/0499 Jonathan Segev NGP May 2015 Agenda Agenda Deck 11-15/0030 Brian Hart NGP PAR draft PAR (20min) 11-15/0262 Brian Hart NGP CSD draft CSD (20min) 11-15/0561 Thomas Handte Additional use cases Use case (15min) 11-15/0629 Igal Kotzer Automotive Use case Use cases (10min) 11-15/0634 Ganesh Venkatesan Additions to use case document Use case (30min) as time permits Submission Slide 21 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Approval of previous meeting minutes March meeting minutes 11-15/0474r0 dated Mar. 12th. Motion: We approve document 11-15/474r0 as our meeting minutes for the March meeting. Move: Praveen Dua 2nd: Allan Zhu Y: Unanimous consent N: A: Submission Slide 22 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Approval of telecon meeting minutes Meeting minutes of NGP-SG telecon on Apr. 15th11- 15/524r1 dated Apr. 15th. Motion: We approve document 11-15/524r1 dated Apr. 15th as our telecon meeting minutes. Move: Ganesh Vekatesan 2nd: Chenchen Liu Y: Unanimous consent N: A: Submission Slide 23 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Presentations Submission Slide 24 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Approval of PAR working draft changes Motion: We agree to adopt doc. 11-15-030r8 as our working draft for PAR development. Move: Ganesh Venkatesan 2nd: Brian Hart Y: Unanimous consent N: A: Submission Slide 25 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Approval of CSD working draft changes Motion: We agree to adopt doc. 11-15-262r4 as our working draft for CSD development. Move: Ganesh Venkatesan 2nd: Brian Hart Y: Unanimous consent N: A: Submission Slide 26 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Strawpolls doc # 11-15/629 Strawpoll # 1 Do you agree on adding the access and security use case to the working draft use case document? Y: 18 N: 0 A: 16 Submission Slide 27 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Strawpolls doc # 11-15/629 Strawpoll # 2 Do you agree on adding the comfort use case to the working draft use case document? Y: 13 N: 0 A: 15 Submission Slide 28 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Strawpolls doc # 11-15/629 Strawpoll # 2 Do you agree on adding the comfort use case to the working draft use case document? Y: 13 N: 0 A: 15 Submission Slide 29 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Remainder to do attendance Submission Slide 30 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Recess Submission Slide 31 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Meeting Slot #2 Submission Slide 32 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Meeting Slot # 2 Agenda Call Meeting to Order (1min) Patent Policy and Logistics (5min) Approve CSD/PAR to WG approval (10min) Complete review on additions to use case document (30min) preliminary simulation results on AoA accuracy in 2.4/5GHz band (30min) Review SG timelines and current status (10min) Telcon schedule (10min) Adjourn Submission Slide 33 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Presentations for slot # 2 Document No. Presenter Title Topic 11-15/0499 Jonathan Segev NGP May 2015 Agenda Agenda Deck 11-15/0030 Brian Hart NGP PAR draft PAR (10 min) 11-15/0262 Brian Hart NGP CSD draft CSD (10 min) 11-15/634 Ganesh Venkatesan Additions to use case document Use case 11-15/0644 Ganesh Venkatesan preliminary simulation results on AoA accuracy in 2.4/5GHz band technical Submission Slide 34 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Motion Believing that the PAR contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE-SA guidelines, Request that the PAR contained in 11-15/030r8 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for WG 802 preview and EC approval to submit to NesCom. Moved: Ganesh Vekatesan 2nd: Brian Hart Results: Y: 26 N: 0 A: 2 Submission Slide 35 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Motion Believing that the CSD contained in the document referenced below meets IEEE 802 guidelines, Request that the CSD contained in 11-15/262r4 be posted to the IEEE 802 Executive Committee (EC) agenda for WG 802 preview and EC approval. Moved: Ganesh Vekatesan 2nd: Brian Hart Results: Y: 28 N: 0 A: 2 Submission Slide 36 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Presentations Submission Slide 37 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Study Group Timeline Month Milestone / Plan of Action January (i) Formation meeting Initial discussion on PAR and CSD Presentations on use cases, usage models. March (p) Continue discussion on PAR and CSD Discussion supporting presentations. Study Group extension May (i) SG Final version of PAR and CSD Discussion on supporting presentations Working Group Approval on PAR and CSD PAR circulated amongst other WGs. July (p) Presentations. Resolve EC feedback on PAR and CSD. Executive Committee Approval on PAR and CSD Study Group extension July (i) NesCom Approval on PAR and CSD Sep. (targeted) Task Group formation meeting Submission Slide 38 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Goals for July Technical and use case Presentations. Resolve EC and WG feedback on PAR and CSD. Executive Committee Approval on PAR and CSD Study Group extension Submission Slide 39 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Teleconference Schedule - TBD 1st of July 10:00 ET for 1hr. Do we need anymore calls? Strawpoll: We agree to the conference call schedule depicted above. Y: Unanimous consent N: A: Submission Slide 40 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Teleconference Schedule 1st of July 10:00 ET for 1hr. Do we need anymore calls? Motion We agree to the conference call schedule depicted above. Move: Ganesh Vekatesan 2nd: Mark Rison Y: Unanimous consent N: A: Submission Slide 41 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Remainder to do attendance Submission Slide 42 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 AOB? Submission Slide 43 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Adjourned Submission Slide 44 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Backup Submission Slide 45 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Some history 90.00 Months between IEEE SASB Approval and publish 80.00 70.00 Months between end of last Sponsor ballot and IEEE SASB approval 60.00 Months between start of first Sponsor ballot and end of last Sponsor ballot 50.00 40.00 Months between end of last WG ballot and start of first Sponsor Ballot 30.00 Months between start of first WG ballot and end of last WG ballot 20.00 10.00 Months between PAR Approval and start of first WG ballot 0.00 IEEE 802.11b IEEE 802.11e IEEE 802.11h IEEE 802.11k IEEE 802.11p IEEE 802.11.2 IEEE 802.11w IEEE 802.11mb IEEE 802.11ad IEEE 802.11ah Submission Slide 46 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Motion to release of PAR and CSD to WG approval Motion: TBD. Move: 2nd: Y: N: A: Submission Slide 47 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
May 2015 doc.: IEEE 802.11-15/0499r5 Motions and strawpolls as needed Motion/strawpoll To instruct the use case document editor to add use cases depicted by slides x y z of submission abc to the use case working draft document. Move: 2nd: Y: N: A: Submission Slide 48 Jonathan Segev (Intel)
