IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Overview Officers TAG San Diego Submission Slide
July 2018 document provides details of the IEEE 802.24 TAG meeting in San Diego, including agendas for various sessions, action items, and guidelines for conducting IEEE-SA meetings.
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July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG July 2018 Meeting San Diego, CA, USA Submission Slide 1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 802.24 Overview Officers TAG Chair: Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Task Groups 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG 802.24.2 IoT TG 27 Voting Members Agenda: 24-18-0015-00-0000 Meetings for the Week Tuesday PM2 Wednesday PM2 Thursday PM2 Tim Godfrey Ben Rolfe Tim Godfrey Chris DiMinico 24.1 24.2 24.1 Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members Submission Slide 2
Agenda 802.24-18-0015r0 July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 802.24 Agenda - July 2018, San Diego, CA 24-18-0015-00-0000 Tuesday PM2 session 1 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 1.8 Call session to order, present Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings , Quorum Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda Approve January TAG minutes Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group ITU and regulatory items Liaison Review Discuss incoming comments from IEEE PES PSCC S6 Task Force regarding 802.24 contribution to "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication System" New project and activities review Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey/Holcomb Godfrey 5 5 5 5 0 4:00 PM 4:05 PM 4:10 PM 4:15 PM 4:20 PM 4:20 PM 4:35 PM 15 15 Godfrey 4:50 PM 20 1.9 Godfrey Godfrey 5:10 PM 5:30 PM 20 1.10 1.11 Recess 0 Wednesday PM2 session 2 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 2.6 Call to Order 802.24.2 IoT Task Group 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report Collaboration (informal liaison) with Wi-Fi Alliance on IoT Use Cases) Review of IoT white paper development New Action Items, AOB Recess DiMinico DiMinico/Diab DiMinico/Godfrey DiMinico DiMinico DiMinico 4:00 PM 4:00 PM 4:20 PM 4:35 PM 5:15 PM 5:30 PM 0 20 15 40 15 0 3 Thursday PM2 session Call to Order 802.11ah and 802.15.4g (SUN) coexistence (any follow up from 802.19) Discussion on 802.24 activities related to Nendica Review comments and feedback from IEEE editors on Sub 1-GHz white paper Development and Editing of TSN White Paper 802.24 TAG Closing and AOB Recess Meet with 802.1 TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization Adjourn 3.1 3.2 3.3 3.4 3.5 3.6 3.7 3.8 3.9 Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey/Marks Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey 4:00 PM 4:00 PM 4:15 PM 4:35 PM 4:50 PM 5:20 PM 5:25 PM 5:30 PM 6:00 PM 0 15 20 15 30 5 5 30 0 Godfrey / Farkos Godfrey Submission Slide 3 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt Submission IEEE 802 Executive Committee
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings Participation in any IEEE 802 meeting (Sponsor, Sponsor subgroup, Working Group, Working Group subgroup, etc.) is on an individual basis Participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience. (https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1) IEEE 802 Working Group membership is by individual; Working Group members shall participate in the consensus process in a manner consistent with their professional expert opinion as individuals, and not as organizational representatives . (subclause 4.2.1 Establishment , of the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures) Participants have an obligation to act and vote as an individual and not under the direction of any other individual or group. A Participant s obligation to act and vote as an individual applies in all cases, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders. Participants shall not direct the actions or votes of any other member of an IEEE 802 Working Group or retaliate against any other member for their actions or votes within IEEE 802 Working Group meetings, see https://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sb_bylaws.pdf section 5.2.1.3 and the IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures, subclause 3.4.1 Chair , list item x. By participating in IEEE 802 meetings, you accept these requirements. If you do not agree to these policies then you shall not participate. (Latest revision of IEEE 802 LMSC Working Group Policies and Procedures: http://www.ieee802.org/devdocs.shtml ) Submission Slide 5 IEEE 802 Executive Committee
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Administration Attendance take on IMAT Reciprocal rights for most WGs Web page http://www.ieee802.org/24 Mailing list stds-802-24@listserv.ieee.org 802-24-voters@listserv.ieee.org (voters list) Document archive http://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/documents IEEE 802 announcement reflector, stds-802-all@listserv.ieee.org Send email to listserv@listserv.ieee.org with no subject and with the following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message Subscribe stds-802-all end Submission Slide 6 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve May minutes 24-18-0014r0 TAG Action Items from May: None Submission Slide 7 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Liaison Pending liaison requests Establish Liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Market Segment Group. Resolution Based on discussion with 802.11 Chair Dorothy Stanley, there are no formal liaisons established with WFA. There is informal exchange of information and documents as needed We will progress on the same basis. Submission Slide 8 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Tuesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Submission Slide 9 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 ITU and Radio Regulatory Items Update from 802.18 From May meeting Any action on FCC notice on 3.7 4.2 GHz? Sharing rules similar to CBRS? IEEE European Spectrum Management Any changes that might impact utility- centric bands in Europe? Submission Slide 10 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Liaison with IEC SEG8 Scope of SEG8: Assess, provide an overview and prioritization of the evolution of technical development and standardization in the field of communication technologies and architectures Liaison Request drafted in May Approve and send to SEG8 at this meeting Submission Slide 11 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 IEEE PSCC TF S6 January 2018 Study Report "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication Systems TAG comments and contributions from March plenary meeting have been provided back to TF S6 chair TF S6 had face to face meeting during IEEE 802 May Interim. Request for feedback has been sent Review any comments sent back to us. Submission Slide 12 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Future Opportunities Tracking At plenary meetings review upcoming needs and opportunities for 802.24 projects. Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to 802.24? Can we progress or expand the activities of the IoT Task Group? Submission Slide 13 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Future Opportunities Tracking (.2) 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413? Maybe more towards completion of P2413? Agnostic to underlying communications, but applicable to all 802 standards. Highlight the relationship between P2413 and 802 standards. Discuss in Tuesday session of 802.24.2 Submission Slide 14 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Future Opportunities Tracking 802.15.12 ULI Incorporating features from 802.15.9 RP which are currently used in utility networking into ULI standard Some other areas of potential interest Still in proposal phase (maybe pre-ballot in Jan 2018) Develop use cases and examples of an integrated multi-802 network including 802.15 802.15.4s SMR spectrum management resources Can 802.24 provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT? IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems ETSI TCERM WG 41 defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum. Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS Notes: May be useful for dynamic radio management identified by utilities as import for future network deployments 4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished. Including use of metrics for management. Cross-standard application of metrics Dynamic adaptability of 802.15.4 networks in the same spectrum as other 802 standards Compare and contrast with link adaptation in other 802 standards Submission Slide 15 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Other Future Opportunities 802.15.4w LPWAN (and links to IETF) An 802-based alternative to proprietary LPWAN s White paper to compare and contrast with other LPWAN technologies? See where IG-DEP goes. Many use cases presented already covered by 802 standards Potential application in utility networks for extremely hard to reach endpoints Extremely low power use cases may be of interest to utility applications Participation required to steer to useful work Applying new bands and channel plans 802.15.4u and 802.15.4v completed. Add bands in various regions for existing 802.15.4 PHYs commonly used in smart grid. Action: Late 2018: Plan update of first white paper to address latest amendments of 802.15.4 w, x, y Submission Slide 16 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Wednesday 802.24.2 IoT TG Submission Slide 17 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Tuesday: 802.24.2 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report Wael Diab (if not in attendance discuss finding a new person) Prior liaison requests Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Task Group Submission Slide 18 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 802.24.2 Status and development of IoT White paper 802.24-17-0036r2 Submission Slide 19 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Thursday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Submission Slide 20 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 802.15.4g and 802.11ah Coexistence Actions from May meeting - 802.19 IG will develop recommendations: (options) 1) changing one or both standards (new features in .11 S1G or .15.4 SUN) 2) 802.19 could create guidelines for coex (e.g. how to parameterize the standards) Also need to consider other Sub-1GHz band occupants. 3) 802.24 could create a whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases. Identifying where each standard is most suitable, and how to make best use of other changes. Could be choices of applications, channel guidelines, duty cycle, Avoid perception that 802 standards are unable to coexist Evaluate and describe potential application-level implications of delay/latency increases due to mutual interference Need comparable analysis in other regions and in other Sub-1GHz technologies If NS-3 simulation models can be shared, others in IEEE 802 could progress that work. Could be shared on 802.19 or 802.24 private areas Submission Slide 21 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Nendica IEEE 802 network enhancements for the next decade Industry Connections Activity Initiation Document (ICAID) Distributed Radio Access Networks 802.1 standard for intra-base station (TSN for fronthaul) (could it apply to 802.11?) Perhaps there are aspects of this TSN that can serve vertical applications? Flexible Factory IoT apply TSN Review and consider 802.24 activities Identify vertical applications that could be enabled by TSN features Identify vertical application that could be enabled if TSN features were present in wireless standards Can interfaces between wired and wireless map application-specific streams? Provide vertical application requirements (needs, underlying problems) to Nendica. Nendica is linked with 802.1 - Submission Slide 22 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 Sub 1 GHz White Paper Review 802.24 TAG white paper_edits.docx Continue addressing comments and questions Submission Slide 23 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 TSN White Paper Draft nearing content-complete Updated document 802.24-17-0006r12 uploaded to Mentor following May meeting. Resolve embedded comments and gaps, notify 802.1 TSN of updated draft. Submission Slide 24 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
July 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0016r0 802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Any New Business? Submission Slide 25 Tim Godfrey, EPRI