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Explore the agenda, timeline, session details, and key discussions from the IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 meeting chaired by Donald Eastlake. Dive into the enhancements for transit links within bridged networks discussed at the Hilton Waikoloa venue in Hawaii. Learn about the meeting's schedule, participants' obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy, and more.

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  1. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 July 2015 802.11ak Agenda Date: 2015-07-15 Authors: Name Affiliations Address Phone Email 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA Huawei Technologies Donald Eastlake +1-508-333-2270 d3e3e3@gmail.com Submission Slide 1 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  2. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 IEEE IEEE 802.11ak/GLK: 802.11ak/GLK: Enhancements For Transit Links Within Bridged Networks Waikoloa, Hawai i 13-16 July, 2015 Chair & Editor: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd (Huawei) d3e3e3@gmail.com +1-508-333-2270 Vice Chair: Mark Hamilton (Ruckus Wireless) Vice Editor: Norm Finn (Cisco) Secretary: Vacant Mailing list: STDS-802-11-TGAK@listserv.ieee.org Submission Slide 2 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  3. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Venue Hilton Waikoloa, Big Island, Hawai i Submission Slide 3 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  4. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 TGak Timeline At Start of Meeting March 2015 Initial WG Ballot on D1.0 September 2015 WG Recirculation March 2016 Sponsor Ballot Pool Formation May 2016 MEC/MDR Done July 2016 Initial Sponsor Ballot November 2016 Sponsor Recirculation January 2017 Final WG & ExecComm & RevCom Approval Submission Slide 4 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  5. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Sessions Day Time Room Monday AM1 Ad Hoc Waikoloa 2 Tuesday AM1 Waikoloa 2 Tuesday EVE Queens 4 Wednesday PM1 Queens 4 Wednesday PM2 Queens 4 Thursday AM1 (joint with ARC and 802.1) Kings 2 Thursday AM2 Queens 4 Thursday PM2 Queens 4 Submission Slide 5 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  6. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Monday, 13 July 2015 08:00 10:00, Wakoloa 2 Room Call ad hoc meeting to Order. Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Call for essential patent claims: no response. Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of Agenda Presentation of submissions to resolve comments, discussion of comments 11-15/791r0, Addressing Simplifications , David Kloper Discussion of CID 229. 11-15/795r0, Addressing Comment Resolutions , David Kloper Adjourn ad hoc meeting Submission Slide 6 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  7. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants [Note: Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2]: Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of each holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represent. Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed) of the identity of any other holders of potential Essential Patent Claims (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) The above does not apply if the patent claim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged No duty to perform a patent search Submission Slide 7 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  8. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/develop/policies/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/materials.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/slideset.ppt Submission Slide 8 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  9. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Call for Potentially Essential Patents If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: Either speak up now or Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or Cause an LOA to be submitted Submission Slide 9 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  10. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy for more details. Submission Slide 10 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  11. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Tuesday, 14 July 2015 08:00 10:00, Waikoloa 2 Room Call meeting to Order. Stephen Pope (Self) volunteered to be temporary Secretary for this session. Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. Attendance Recording Reminder Agenda (734r4) approved by unanimous consent Discussion of timing relative to 802.1AC revision and possibilities of referencing or not references 802.11ak at various states. Approval of the Minutes of the May 802.11ak Meeting in Vancouver, British Columbia: 11-15/0690r0. Approved by unanimous consent. Submission Slide 11 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  12. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Tuesday, 14 July 2015 08:00 10:00, Waikoloa 2 Room Approval of the Minutes of Teleconferences since Vancouver: June 1st, 11-15/750r0, 11ak Telecon Minutes 20150601 June 15th, 11-15/765r0, 11ak Telecon Minutes 20150615 June 29th, 11-15/782r0, 11ak Telecon Minutes 20150629 Approved by unanimous consent. Approval of the Minutes of the Santa Clara, California, ad hoc meeting (9&10 July), 11-15/0792r2, July 2015 802.11ak Ad Hoc Approved by unanimous consent. Approval of the Minutes of the Monday ad hoc meeting: 11-15/0893r0, 11ak 13 July ad hoc meeting minutes Approved by unanimous consent. Submission Slide 12 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  13. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Tuesday, 14 July 2015 08:00 10:00, Waikoloa 2 Room Initial discussion of timeline. Presentation of submissions to resolve LB212 comments and improve the P802.11ak draft: 11-15/725r3, 11ak PICS Fix , Donald Eastlake (Huawei). 11-15/798r1, 11ak Vancouver Resolution Fixes , Donald Eastlake (Huawei). 11-15/0795r0, Addressing Comment Resolutions (doc), David Kloper (Cisco) 11-15/791, Addressing Simplifications , David Kloper (Cisco) Recess until 18:30. Submission Slide 13 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  14. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Tuesday, 14 July 2015 19:30 21:30, Queens 4 Call meeting to Order. Michael Fisher (Fisher Consulting) volunteered to be temporary Secretary for this session. Call for essential patents. No response. Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of Agenda Moved, to approve the comment resolutions in 11-15/735r3 11ak PICS Fix and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the P802.11ak draft. Straw poll at Santa Clara ad hoc: Yes: 5 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Mover: David Kloper Vote: Yes: 4 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Seconder: Michael Fisher Submission Slide 14 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  15. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Tuesday, 14 July 2015 19:30 21:30, Queens 4 Moved, to approve the comment resolutions in 11-15/798r1 11ak Vancouver Resolution Fixes and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the P802.11ak draft. Straw poll at Santa Clara ad hoc: Yes: 5 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Mover: David Kloper Vote: Yes: 4 No: 0 Abstain: 0 No objection to asking for the Wednesday PM1 slot that was released by TGaj. Presentation of submissions to resolve LB212 comments and improve the P802.11ak draft: 11-15/0795r0, Addressing Comment Resolutions (doc), David Kloper (Cisco) Recess until 16:00 Wednesday [At the mid week WG plenary, a PM1 session for TGak Wednesday was approved.] Seconder: Michael Fisher Submission Slide 15 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  16. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:30 15:30, Queens 4 Room Call meeting to Order Call for essential patents. No response. Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of Agenda Presentation of submissions to resolve LB212 comments and improve the P802.11ak draft: 11-15/0939/r0, Ra! Ra! SYNRA , Donald Eastlake, David Kloper Edited to r1 based on discussion. Submission Slide 16 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  17. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Wednesday, 15 July 2015 13:30 15:30, Queens 4 Room Straw Polls from 11-15/939: Should we pursue the type of SYNRA shown on slide 4 at least for the GLK-only case? Yes: 7 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Do we also need a backwards compatible SYNRA2 with a newly allocated OUI for the mixed GLK and non-GLK case? No support. 11-15/556r7 work on comment assignment and resolution drafting. Recess until 16:00 today Submission Slide 17 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  18. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Pending Presentations 11-15/0795r0, Addressing Comment Resolutions (doc), David Kloper (Cisco) 11-15/791, Addressing Simplifications , David Kloper (Cisco) 11-15/556r7 Submission Slide 18 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  19. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:00 18:00, Queens 4 Room Call meeting to Order. Call for essential patents No response. Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of Agenda Norm Finn (Cisco): Talked about status of 802.1Qbz and 802.1AC. Presentation of submissions to resolve LB212 comments and improve the P802.11ak draft: Submission Slide 19 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  20. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Wednesday, 15 July 2015 16:00 18:00, Queens 4 Room Moved, to approve the comment resolutions in the Santa Clara tab of 11-15/556r7 and direct the Editor to incorporate them into the draft. Mover: Michael Fisher Seconder: Richard Roy Yes: 4 No: 0 Abstain: 0 Recess until 08:00 Thursday Submission Slide 20 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  21. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Thursday, 16 July 2015 08:00 10:00, Kings 2 Room Call TGak Joint Meeting with ARC SC and 802.1Qbz to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of Agenda 802.1Qbz / 802.1AC / 802.11ak status 802.11ak Teleconferences, joint with 802.1Qbz if mutually convenient: 1 hour teleconferences through the September 2015 802.11 meeting on Mondays the 3rd, 10th, 17th, and 31st of August at 10am Eastern time. Yes: No: Abstain: Presentation and discussion of submissions and issues Recess TGk until 10:30 today Submission Slide 21 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  22. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Thursday, 16 July 2015 10:30 12:30, Queens 4 Room Call TGak Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of agenda Presentation of submissions to resolve LB212 comments and improve the P802.11ak draft: GLK-GCR: 11-15/724r2 (doc), 11-15/150r9 (ppt) , Ganesh Venkatesan (Intel) 11-15/796r0 (doc), Ganesh Venkatesan (Intel) Recess until 16:00 today Submission Slide 22 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  23. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Thursday, 16 July 2015 16:00 18:00, Queens 4 Room Call TGak Meeting to Order IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder Approval of agenda Presentation of submissions to resolve LB212 comments and improve the P802.11ak draft: Motions Change the TGak timeline by moving WG recirculation from September 2015 to November 2015. Submission Slide 23 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  24. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 Thursday, 16 July 2015 16:00 18:00, Queens 4 Room Moved, to approve the comment resolutions in the Waikoloa tab of 11-15/556rTBD and direct the Editor to produce a Draft P802.11ak_D1.2 incorporating all P802.11ak resolutions approved at this meeting through and including those approved by this motion. Moved: Seconded: Yes: No: Abstain: Further work on comment assignment and drafting of comment resolutions. Adjourn TGak Submission Slide 24 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

  25. July 2015 doc.: IEEE P802.11-15/0734r7 [Reference Information] 802.11ak PAR and Five Criterion 12/1207r1, 802.11 GLK Draft PAR 12/1208r0, 802.11 GLK Draft 5C Draft 1.0 of 802.11ak and results of Letter Ballot 212: http://www.ieee802.org/11/private/Draft_Standards/11ak/Draft P802.11ak_D1.0.pdf 11-15/556r6, TGak LB212 Comments Draft 2.1 of 802.1Qbz is at http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/bz-drafts/d1/802-1Qbz-d2- 1.pdf Draft 2.0 of 802.1AC-REV is at http://www.ieee802.org/1/files/private/ac-rev-drafts/d1/802-1ac- rev-d2-0.pdf (You can access 802.1 drafts with the 802.11 user name and password and vice versa.) Submission Slide 25 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Huawei Technologies

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