Proposal for TIG for Moving Vehicles Wireless LAN Access by Azin Neishaboori

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Explore the proposal for a Task Group (TIG) aiming to enhance wireless LAN access for moving vehicles, addressing time-sensitive data requirements, MAC layer enhancements, and potential PHY modifications. This initiative seeks to improve connectivity for connected vehicles, focusing on speeds below 40 km/h initially and potentially expanding scope for better Doppler mitigations in the future phases.

  • Proposal
  • TIG
  • Wireless LAN
  • Moving Vehicles
  • Connectivity

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  1. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Proposal for a TIG for Moving Vehicles Wireless LAN Access Date: 2024-06-20 Authors: Name Azin Neishaboori Affiliations General otors Address 29427 Louis Chevrolet Road, Warren MI 48093 Phone email azin.neishaboori@gm.com Submission Slide 1 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  2. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Abstract The number of connected vehicles is growing rapidly Infotainment is a major use case for connected vehicles with significant amount of time-sensitive data demand Current implementations rely solely on cellular connection for time- sensitive data downlink and uplink for a moving connected vehicle We propose creation of a TIG for supporting moving vehicles RLAN connection via a two-phased approach: Phase 1: Target speeds below 40 km/h (downtown and busy suburban driving) and focus only on potential gaps in the MAC layer Phase 2: Depending on the outcome of phase 1, expand scope to PHY modifications for better Doppler mitigations Submission Slide 2 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  3. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Piecing together the current remedies: Intra & Inter ESS Roaming MAC issues under high mobility Fast and Scalable Scanning and AP Selection: Solicited/unsolicited Neighbor Report (802.11k/v/ai), BTM (802.11v), and FILS discovery (802.11ai) Currently only intra-ESS Authentication before association: STA to try to associate with an AP it will succeed to authenticate with Fast BSS Transition (FT) allows authentication with target AP before breaking link with current AP Currently only intra-ESS Passpoint (802.11u): STA can identify APs based on Network Address Identifier realms it has credentials for, stored preferences, prior associations, etc. ANQP/GAS helpful but not always fast enough Realm info included in beacon/probe response (such as hashed realm in FILS beacons) more helpful than ANQP-based Fast and Scalable Association to Next AP: FILS Helps with resource request booking - Currently only intra-ESS 802.11bn proposed solutions leveraging ML Currently only intra-ESS Fast, secure, and scalable authentication/secure link establishment with next AP: Lighter authentication process: FILS authentication (using EAP-RP), FT, PMKSA Caching, Opportunistic Key Caching, Currently only intra-ESS NOTE: Inter-ESS solutions less addressed and tougher to solve Time-To-First-Byte Ping Authentication and DHCP Association ~ 9.7 secs TTFB 5 secs for scanning (without OCE) Submission Slide 3 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  4. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Piecing together the current remedies: Intra & Inter ESS Roaming Cont d Higher layer issues under high mobility Intra-ESS solutions currently available: To fix DHCP latency/disruption due to reassigning an IP address: 802.11ai/FILS IP address configuration For inter-ESS: Mobile IP Expansion of the scope of FT (802.11r) and/or FILS (802.11ai) Expand Fast BSS Transition to allow IP address acquisition prior to breaking the current AP association? Allow over-the-air exchange of APs from adjacent ESSs? Or use a higher-layer protocol? Time-To-First-Byte Ping Authentication and DHCP Association ~ 9.7 secs TTFB 5 secs for scanning (without OCE) Submission Slide 4 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  5. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Current Objectives for Phase 1 Seamless Roaming both for Intra- and Inter- ESS requires: Fast Target AP Discovery with helpful metrics advertised to help next AP selection Make Before Break Link Establishment Authentication Before Association No IP Address Reacquisition due to AP-AP handover Scalability of AP discovery and Authentication Submission Slide 5 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  6. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Proposed Text for Scope of Automotive RLAN TIG The Moving Vehicle RLAN Topic Interest Group will investigate a solution comprising current and new mechanisms which can enable non-AP STAs integrated with vehicles to connect to external 802.11 APs while in-motion and to seamlessly roam between APs intra and inter-ESS. Submission Slide 6 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  7. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Conclusion Requesting support for creation of a TIG for Automotive RLAN Use Case Phase 1: Lower mobility conditions (< 40 km/hour) Phase 2: Higher speeds and contingent on the success of phase 1 Submission Slide 7 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  8. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 Motion Do you agree with the creation of a Topic Interest Group in IEEE SA aimed to seek a solution, potentially comprising current and new mechanisms, to enable non-AP STAs integrated with vehicles to connect to external 802.11 APs while in-motion and seamlessly roaming between APs intra and inter-ESS? Submission Slide 8 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

  9. 4/13/2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-24/1062r0 References 80211-2020 802.11-24/378r0 802.11-24/415r1 802.11-24/793r1 Submission Slide 9 Azin Neishaboori, General Motors

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