Uncovering Family History Through DNA Matches and Genealogical Research
Dive into a journey of uncovering family history through DNA testing, genealogical research, and brick walls on the father's side. Explore intriguing discoveries, challenges, and potential breakthroughs in tracing ancestors in Germany and Prussia.
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BRICKWALLS ON MY FATHER S SIDE GIVEN BY PHILIP MANN TO THE GERMAN INTEREST GROUP OF THE SAN DIEGO GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY MEETING ON 17 JANUARY 2024.
BACKGROUND I was born in Murray Bridge, South Australia in 1951, the 10th child of my parents Arthur Theodore Mann and his wife Louise Elsa (nee Kuchel). Family lore has it that no-one would ever do a pedigree of my father s family as they were unsure what they would unearth and it would be too difficult.
BRICKWALL NO. 1 In 2000, the Bradtke Family History was published, which covered the Manns from my great grandfather, Johann Christian Mann, born in Hirschfeldau, Silesia in 1812. There was no information about his parents. I have subsequently found, transcribed and translated his baptismal records which show he was unehelich (born out of wedlock) and his mother was Anna Rosina Fiedler of Hirschfeldau and his father was Friedrich Mahn of Grossenbohrau (7 miles away). To date, I have got no further back.
MY DADS PEDIGREE (PART THEREOF) BRICKWALL NO. 1
DNA TESTS I have tested my autosomal DNA with Ancestry and uploaded to Gedmatch, MyHeritage and FamilyTreeDNA (with whom I have also had my YDNA tested at the Y37 level). This has given no clarification on my paternal line, but has identified that I am in haplogroup R- M269. For me, Ancestry has about 20% of my closer matches (>20cM or about 4th cousin and closer) in North America. MyHeritage has a significant number in Germany (about 40% of those for the US and Canada).
BRICKWALL NO. 2 My great grandmother, Johanne Louise Bradtke, was born in Cicha Gora, Posen, Prussia, to Anna Rosina Dorothea Kucke (nee Schlinke) on 7 June 1823 but details of her father are unknown. On 29 January 1823, her mother was married to Johann Gottfried Kucke, the eldest son of Johann Gottfried Kucke and Rosina Dorothea nee Haemmerling of Cicha Gora, but his name was not included on Louise s birth certificate. Father s name was left blank on her birth certificate. On 12 November 1829, Rosina Dorothea married Wilhelm Bradtke. Wilhelm adopted Louise as his daughter and she took his surname.
MY DADS PEDIGREE (PART THEREOF) BRICKWALL NO. 1 BRICKWALL NO. 2
POSSIBLE WAY OF USING MY DNA MATCHES TO DETERMINE WHO JOHANNE LOUISE BRADTKE S FATHER IS Identify DNA matches (call them Group A) known to descend from Johann Christian Mann and Johanne Louise Bradtke. Identify my shared matches with Group A members who are not part of Group A (call them Group B). Identify my shared matches with Group B members who are not part of Groups A and B (call them Group C). Identify my shared matches with Group C members who are not known to be connected via my maternal Riedel great grandparents or further back on the Schlinke line (call them Group D).
COMMENTS Does this method seem reasonable? One name that recurs (at least 6 times) in my Ancestry DNA matches family trees is Silbernagel. A family of Silbernagels lived in Bentschen/Zbaszyn, Posen/Poznan, 11 miles from Cicha Gora; some migrated to the US, some to Australia. What other methods could be used? I can be contacted at philip@philipmann.com.au.
