Understanding the Consistency of God Throughout the Bible

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Explore the continuity of God's character from the Old Testament to the New Testament, addressing why there may be perceived differences. Discover how faith and reason work together to provide a comprehensive view of God's nature and teachings.

  • Gods Character
  • Bible
  • Faith and Reason
  • Continuity
  • Old Testament

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  1. Announcing the Gospel THE GOD OF THE OT & NT under the light of the Catholic Faith pjc January 2017 www.Lumen-Fidei.com

  2. QUESTIONS WHY DOES GOD IN THE OLD WHY DOES GOD IN THE OLD TESTAMENT SEEM DIFFERENT IN TESTAMENT SEEM DIFFERENT IN THE NEW TESTAMENT? THE NEW TESTAMENT? IS GOD THE SAME GOD FROM THE OLD TO THE NEW TESTAMENT? IS THIS A TALE OF TWO GODS? Page-2

  3. Building the answer Premise: Using Faith and Reason Christian views and Atheist views Christian rational arguments Placing Jesus at the center of the problem Biblical references Continuity argument Objective Morality argument What the Church teaches What the Popes teach What Jesus said Conclusion Final Prayer Page-3

  4. Propositions God s qualities are consistent throughout the Bible God is the same God of the Old Testament and New Testament. It is a mistake to neglect those passages of Scripture that strike us as problematic. All events must be placed in the proper time in human history and in the history of Salvation Understanding the Bible requires an intellectual effort Don t forget the responsibilities of humans 1 Peter 3:15: Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect Our personal answer to these questions have personal consequences. Page-4

  5. Premise Faith & Reason work together Reason Reason is the capacity is the capacity for consciously consciously making sense of making sense of things things, applying logic, establishing and verifying facts, and changing or justifying practices, institutions, and beliefs based on new or existing information. It is closely associated with such characteristically human activities as philosophy, science, language, ma thematics, and art and is normally considered to be a definitive characteristic of human nature. Faith is the theological virtue by Faith is the theological virtue by which we believe in God and believe which we believe in God and believe all that He has said and revealed to all that He has said and revealed to us us, and that Holy Church proposes for our belief, because He is truth itself. By faith "man freely commits his entire self to God." For this reason the believer seeks to know and do God's will. "The righteous shall live by faith." Living faith "work[s] through charity. [ccc 1814] for LUMEN FIDEI accepts the strong compatibilist model in the interaction of Faith & Reason. Here it is understood that faith and reason have an organic connection. Articles of faith can be demonstrated by reason, either deductively (from widely shared theological premises) or inductively (from common experiences). Rom 1:20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived and understood ever since the creation of the world, in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. Page-5

  6. Ezekiel 18:23 Do I actually delight in the death of the wicked, declared the sovereign Lord? Do I not prefer that he turn from his wicked conduct and live?

  7. GOD OT = GOD NT Christian view: Christian view: The answer is Yes. We know this because this is the emphatic declaration of the Bible (Mal. 3:6; Jam. 1:17; Heb. 1:12; 13:8). This is called the immutability of God, which applies to Christ as the Son of God, or God the second Person of the Trinity. The Bible is a book of progressive revelation. What is seen in the OT is true and accurate, but in the unfolding of Himself and His plan for man God gradually revealed more and more of Himself and His plan of salvation. Many think that God seems wrathful and harsh in the Old Testament as compared with the New, but a careful reading of both reveal God s love, grace, mercy, and His judgment in both the OT & NT. The grace of God in Christ and the Trinity was anticipated and prophesied in the OT. Page-7

  8. GOD OT = GOD NT Atheist view: Atheist view: God doesn t exist so the question is irrelevant. How can rational human beings believe in a god commanded his people to commit genocide, killed little children, wiped out the entire world population in a flood, sent plagues and devastation, and created a world full of people but decided to only reveal Himself and his rules to one group of people and condemn the rest because they were born in the wrong place? Page-8

  9. Main problem for Christians Is Jesus also the God of the OT? If you believe that Jesus is God, then Jesus must be The problem is that Christians tend to think that the NT replaces the OT Christians tend to think that the NT replaces the OT [Marcionism] and justify the apparent different behavior: Think of God the Father separately separately from God the Son and Holy Spirit Minimize Minimize the problem of the dark side of the God of the OT and believe that it does not affect their understanding of Jesus Find it more difficult to reconcile reconcile the idea that Jesus is the God of the OT compared to the easier idea that God the Father is the same in both OT and NT Justify Justify the differences based on interpretation. In one hand the Protestant literal interpretation of the Bible compared with a more refined and rational Catholic explanation of the events of the OT understood allegorically. Justify that anything that happened is justified so that Christ would bring us salvation. I think that these views are incomplete as they eliminate a significant important aspect of God relationship with men since creation and eliminate fundamental foundation of God s intention for humans to know that all actions have consequences, and God will exercise all mercy and all justice. Jesus must be the God of the NT and OT Page-9

  10. Jesus = God NT = God OT? (I) The apostle John writes that Jesus the Christ is the Creator God of the Old Jesus the Christ is the Creator God of the Old Testament Testament. John 1:1-3, 10 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Paul also claims that Jesus was our Creator God Jesus was our Creator God. Colossians 1:15-17 He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by him all things were created Paul portrays Jesus as that God that led Israel out of Egypt to the Promised Jesus as that God that led Israel out of Egypt to the Promised Land Land. 1 Corinthians 10:1-4 Our forefathers were all under the cloud and that they all passed through the sea They all ate the same spiritual food and drank the same spiritual drink; for they drank from the spiritual rock that accompanied them, and that rock was Christ. Moses also refers to God as a Rock Moses also refers to God as a Rock. Deuteronomy 32:4 He is the Rock, his works are perfect, and all his ways are just. A faithful God who does no wrong, upright and just is he. Isaiah quotes God s statement that He is that Rock God s statement that He is that Rock. Isaiah 44:8 Is there any God besides me? No, there is no other Rock; I know not one. Jesus refers to Himself before the Jews using the same name that He gave Jesus refers to Himself before the Jews using the same name that He gave Moses at the burning bush. Moses at the burning bush. John 8:58 "I tell you the truth," Jesus answered, "before Abraham was born, I AM! Page-10

  11. Jesus = God NT = God OT? (II) God wanted to dwell with humans on this earth. God wanted to dwell with humans on this earth. Exodus 29:45-46 "Then I will dwell among the Israelites and be their God. God did dwell with humans throughout the OT just as Jesus did in the God did dwell with humans throughout the OT just as Jesus did in the NT. NT. Matthew 1:21 She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus The angel continued to relate that the child would have the name Immanuel The angel continued to relate that the child would have the name Immanuel meaning God with us. meaning God with us. Matthew 1:23 "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" which means, "God with us." As a human the God of the OT became a submissive human servant in the As a human the God of the OT became a submissive human servant in the NT. NT. Mark 10:45 For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many. Although Jesus was God throughout the whole Bible He humbled Himself as Although Jesus was God throughout the whole Bible He humbled Himself as a human a human. Philippians 2:5-8 Your attitude should be the same as that of Christ Jesus: Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be grasped, but made himself nothing, taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Page-11

  12. Did Jesus claim to be God? God in the Old Testament Jesus Comparison to Himself I AM (Exodus 3:14-15; Isaiah 48:12) I AM (John 8:58; John 8:18, 24) The Shepherd (Psalm 23:1) The Shepherd (John 10:11) The Light (Psalm 27:1) The Light (John 8:12) Ruler of all (Isaiah 9:6) Ruler of all (Matthew 28:18) Judge of all nations (Joel 3:12) Judge of all (John 5:12) The Bridegroom (Isaiah 62:5; Hosea 2:16) The Bridegroom (Matthew 25:1) God s Word never pass away (Isaiah 40:8) Jesus words never pass away (Mk. 13:31) First and the Last (Isaiah 48:12) First and the Last (Revelation 1:17-18) The Sower (Jeremiah 31:27; Ezra 34:9) The Sower (Matthew 13:3-9) The Shepherd (Gen 49:24; Psalm 23:1) The Shepherd (John 10:11) The Rock (Psalm 18:2) The Rock (Matthew 7:24) In 20 of Jesus 52 parables, He identifies Himself as God. The Essentials of Apologetics Why Jesus: The God-Man Jesus

  13. GOD OT = GOD NT Rational Christian Arguments 1. 1. The progressive knowledge argument The progressive knowledge argument: Humans, as they evolved, became more aware of the real intentions of God in the unfolding of Himself and His plan of salvation. As the understanding of humans improved (through natural rational evolution), humans were able to discern better the intentions of God towards consolation . The objective morality argument The objective morality argument: God is all good and can t plan, desire, intent, or execute evil actions or show evil attitude. If that is the impression it is because us, humans, don t understand God s real intentions that can only be explained through God s unstoppable desire for the good of His creation and the salvation of as many humans as possible. The wrong human interpretation argument The wrong human interpretation argument: This argument would have two sub arguments: 1) Humans might have interpreted God the wrong way for personal reasons or 2) Humans didn t understand what God asked of them. The Continuity argument The Continuity argument: In both testaments, God is a God of incredible love and compassion; and God is equally a God of justice and righteous wrath against sin. 2. 2. 3. 3. 4. 4. Page-13

  14. GOD OT = GOD NT In favor of the Continuity argument We can t reason that Mercy belongs ONLY to the NT and Justice ONLY to the OT. There is a progressive learning of God s plan for men through time Mercy Mercy Justice Justice Adam and Eve (Genesis 3) The corrupt people of Noah s day (Genesis 6-8) Sodom and Gomorrah (Genesis 18-19) Egyptian slave masters (Genesis 15:14, Exodus 7-12) The worshippers of the golden calf (Exodus 32:26-35) Extermination of Amalekite by Saul The annihilation of the Canaanites (Joshua) Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God s wrath, for it is written: It is mine to avenge; I will repay, says the Lord (Romans 12:19). But You, o Lord, are a God compassionate and merciful, slow to anger, abounding in steadfast love and faithfulness. (Psalm 86:15) OT OT Now there is in store for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, will award to me on that day and not only to me, but also to all who have longed for his appearing (2 Timothy 4:8). NT NT But they will have to give account to him who is ready to judge the living and the dead (1 Peter 4:5). Ananias and Sapphira (Acts 5:1-10) Page-14

  15. GOD progressive teaching from OT to NT From the 10 commandments to Jesus Beatitudes Beatitudes Faith (poor inspirit, merciful, peacemaker, ) Capital Sins Reason (pride, greed, envy, lust, ) 10 Commandments Instincts (kill, steal, honor, covet, ) As humans grew in knowledge and wisdom, God adjusted his requirements. From the strict commandments to control our instincts to the Beatitudes for a saintly life.

  16. GOD OT = GOD NT In favor of the Objective Morality argument We can reason that God s actions in the OT have a morally objective reason. This can be very shocking. Example Example Possible rational explanation Possible rational explanation But judging Scripture by Scripture, we read that no one is truly innocent (Romans 3:23) and all will die eventually anyway a repercussion of our own actions (1 Corinthians 15:22; Romans 6:23) So God was still patient, allowing time for repentance and change (1 Peter 3:20). God even called Noah to be a preacher of righteousness (2 Peter 2:5), yet people still refused to listen and continued to murder, rape, and so on. Our moral duties are constituted by the commands of a holy and loving God. Since God doesn t issue commands to Himself, He has no moral duties to fulfill. What that implies is that God has the right to take the lives of the Canaanites when He sees fit. How long they live and when they die is up to Him. On divine command theory, then, God has the right to command an act, which, in the absence of a divine command, would have been sin, but which is now morally obligatory in virtue of that command. 1. The Flood: God is often attacked for killing all the innocent people and even children (Genesis, 6) 2. 1. According to the Pentateuch, when God called forth his people out of slavery in Egypt and back to the land of their forefathers, he directed them to kill all the Canaanite clans who were living in the land (Deut. 7.1- 2; 20.16-18) 2. 3. Page-16

  17. GOD OT = GOD NT What the Church teaches (I) In Sacred Scripture, the Church constantly finds her nourishment and her strength, for she welcomes it not as a human word, "but as what it really is, the word of God is, the word of God [ccc104] God is the author of Sacred Scripture God is the author of Sacred Scripture. "The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit. [ccc105] The inspired books teach the truth The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error, teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures. [ccc107] Still, the Christian faith is not a "religion of the book." Christian faith is not a "religion of the book." Christianity is the religion of the "Word" of God, a word which is "not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living". Christ, the eternal Word of the living God, must, through the Holy Spirit, "open [our] minds to understand the Scriptures. [ccc108] Page-17

  18. GOD OT = GOD NT What the Church teaches (II) The senses of Scripture [ccc 115-118] According to an ancient tradition, one can distinguish between two senses of Scripture: the literal and the spiritual. literal and the spiritual. The literal sense The literal sense is the meaning conveyed by the words of Scripture and discovered by exegesis, following the rules of sound interpretation. 2. 2. The spiritual sense The spiritual sense. Thanks to the unity of God's plan, not only the text of Scripture but also the realities and events about which it speaks can be signs. a) The allegorical sense. We can acquire a more profound understanding of events by recognizing their significance in Christ; thus the crossing of the Red Sea is a sign or type of Christ's victory and also of Christian Baptism. b) The moral sense. The events reported in Scripture ought to lead us to act justly. As St. Paul says, they were written "for our instruction". c) The anagogical sense (Greek: anagoge, "leading"). We can view realities and events in terms of their eternal significance, leading us toward our true homeland: thus the Church on earth is a sign of the heavenly Jerusalem. Conclusion of Church teaching: Conclusion of Church teaching: Do not interpret the OT only literally Do not interpret the OT only literally Understand how the OT leads always into the NT and Christ Understand how the OT leads always into the NT and Christ 1. 1. Page-18

  19. GOD OT = GOD NT What the Popes teach (Pope BXVI: Verbum Domini ) In discussing the relationship between the Old and the New Testaments, the Synod (Synod on the Word of God, 2008) considered those passages in the Bible which, due to the violence and immorality they occasionally contain, prove obscure and difficult obscure and difficult. Here it must be remembered first and foremost that biblical revelation is deeply rooted in history is deeply rooted in history. God s plan is manifested progressively and it is accomplished slowly God s plan is manifested progressively and it is accomplished slowly, in successive stages and despite human resistance. In other words, men resist God's plan men resist God's plan, and this has left traces in Scripture as well. Therefore, if we read a passage in the Bible that is disturbing, it may be a result of man's resistance to God, not an disturbing, it may be a result of man's resistance to God, not an expression of God's ultimate will. expression of God's ultimate will. The Law that God gives the Israelites (as the first people of revelation) is meant to regulate and mitigate and limit the damage men are doing. meant to regulate and mitigate and limit the damage men are doing. God did not demand of humans instant conformity God did not demand of humans instant conformity to the fullness of his will. He didn't ask them to be perfect overnight. biblical revelation a passage in the Bible that is Page-19

  20. GOD OT = GOD NT What the Popes teach (Pope BXVI: Verbum Domini ) Instead, God was willing to tolerate some of the things they were determined to do, though the hardness of their hearts, and over the course of time educate them to a higher level of understanding and acceptance of his will. The Bible is written according to the cultural and moral level of the periods it deals with. It records what people did in these periods but "without explicitly denouncing the immorality of such things. In the Old Testament, the preaching of the prophets vigorously challenged every kind of injustice and violence, whether collective or individual, and thus became God s way of training his people in preparation for the Gospel. Conclusion of Popes teaching: Conclusion of Popes teaching: It would be a mistake to neglect those passages of Scripture that strike It would be a mistake to neglect those passages of Scripture that strike us as problematic. us as problematic. Add historical analysis Add historical analysis Check the responsibilities of humans Check the responsibilities of humans Page-20

  21. GOD OT = GOD NT What Jesus taught He knew the Scriptures thoroughly. He believed every word of Scripture. He believed the Old Testament was historical fact. He believed the books were written by the men whose names they bear. He believed the Old Testament was spoken by God Himself, or written by the Holy Spirit s inspiration, even though the pen was held by men.: Matthew 19:4, 5; 22:31, 32, 43; Mark 12:26; Luke 20:37. He believed Scripture was more powerful than His miracles: Luke 16:29, 31. He quoted Scripture as the basis for his own teaching. His ethics were the same as what we find already written in Scripture: Matthew 7:12; 19:18, 19; 22:40; Mark 7:9, 13; 10:19; 12:24, 29 31; Luke 18:20. He warned against replacing it with something else, or adding or subtracting from it. (Matthew 5:17) I didn t come to destroy the law, but fulfill it ) He will judge all men in the last day, as Messiah and King, on the basis of His infallible Word committed to writing by fallible men, guided by the infallible Holy Spirit: Matthew 25:31; John 5:22, 27; 12:48; Romans 2:16. Conclusion of Jesus teachings: Understand the Scriptures under the light of Conclusion of Jesus teachings: Understand the Scriptures under the light of His doctrine. Everything must have a meaning in the history of Salvation. His doctrine. Everything must have a meaning in the history of Salvation. Page-21

  22. Conclusion Conclusion

  23. GOD OT = GOD NT God s qualities are consistent throughout the Bible God s qualities are consistent throughout the Bible God is the same God of the Old Testament and New God is the same God of the Old Testament and New Testament. Testament. Bible requires literal and spiritual interpretations Bible requires literal and spiritual interpretations All events must be placed in the proper time in history placed in the proper time in history In all cases, people have/had the opportunity to get back to a In all cases, people have/had the opportunity to get back to a right relationship with Him. The process is consistent through right relationship with Him. The process is consistent through the OT and NT: the OT and NT: God judges sin (2 Peter, 3,5-7) God exercises Patience God provides opportunity for repentance and means for forgiveness and means for salvation. (even today 2 Peter 3, 9) God s mercy is endless but He exercises Justice God gives a new better and bigger life after exercising justice Page-23

  24. GOD OT = GOD NT Personal implications: Personal implications: Do we believe that our actions have consequences? Do we understand God s mercy and God s justice? Do we believe in heaven and hell? Do we believe that the gate to heaven is narrow or do we believe that there is a highway to heaven? Page-24

  25. Final Prayer Final Prayer

  26. LUMENFIDEI - PRAYER OF THE SEVEN QUESTIONS OF JESUS for personal meditation 1. JESUS IS THE TRUTH, THE WAY AND THE LIFE and He asks us: What are you looking for? (John 1:38) And when the two disciples heard [John the Baptist] say this, they followed Jesus. Jesus turned around and saw them following. What are you looking for? He asked. They said to Him, Teacher, where are You staying? Come and see, He replied. So, they went and saw where He was staying, and spent that day with Him. 2. JESUS IS THE SON OF GOD and He asks us: Who do you say that I am? (Matt 16:15) But what about you? Jesus asked. Who do you say I am? Simon Peter answered, You are the Christ, the Son of the living God. 3. JESUS IS THE HEALER and He asks us: What do you want me to do for you? (Matt 20:32) The crowd chided them to be silent, but they shouted all the louder, Lord, Son of David, have mercy on us! Jesus stopped and called them. What do you want Me to do for you? He asked. Lord, they answered, let our eyes be opened. 4. JESUS IS SALVATION and He asks us: How are you to avoid being sentenced to hell? (Matt 23:33) How will you escape the sentence of hell? Because of this, I am sending you prophets and wise men and teachers. [ ] many will fall away and will betray and hate one another, and many false prophets will arise and mislead many. Because of the multiplication of wickedness, the love of most will grow cold. But the one who perseveres to the end will be saved. 5. JESUS IS SACRIFICE AND OBEDIENCE and He asks us: Why do you persecute me? (Acts 9:4-6) And he fell to the ground and heard a voice saying to him, Saul, Saul, why are you persecuting Me? And he said, Who are You, Lord? And He said, I am Jesus whom you are persecuting, but get up and enter the city, and it will be told you what you must do. 6. JESUS IS LOVE and He asks us: Jesus asked: Do you love me? (John 21:16) Jesus asked a second time, Simon son of John, do you love Me? Yes, Lord, he answered You know I love You. Jesus told him, Shepherd my sheep. Feed my sheep 7. JESUS IS FAITH and HOPE and He asks us: Why do you doubt? (Matt 14:31) But when he saw the strength of the wind, he was afraid, and beginning to sink, cried out, Lord, save me! Immediately Jesus reached out His hand and took hold of Peter. You of little faith, He said, why did you doubt? And when they had climbed back into the boat, the wind died down.

  27. The End The End

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