IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 AANI SC Teleconference Agenda
Explore the agenda for the IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 AANI SC Teleconference on October 20, 2020, chaired by Joseph Levy from InterDigital. The agenda includes administrative reminders and rules, technical report discussions, guidelines, and more. Stay informed and engaged in this informative session.
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October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 AANI SC Teleconference Agenda Date: 2019-10-20 Authors: Name Affiliations Address 111 W 33rd Street New York, NY 10120 Phone email Joseph LEVY InterDigital, Inc. +1.631.622.4139 jslevy@ieee.org Agenda Slide 1 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Abstract Agenda for: 802.11 AANI SC (Advanced Access Network Interface Standing Committee) 20 October 2020 Teleconference Chair: Joseph Levy (InterDigital) Vice Chair: Open Secretary: Open Agenda Slide 2 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Reminders and Rules Call for Secretary Reminders to attendees: Please record your attendance: https://imat.ieee.org/802.11/attendance-log?p=3236800005&t=47200043 Please mute yourself, unless you wish to speak No recordings AANI SC Operating Rules: Anyone present can vote on straw polls Non-preannounced Motions are not in order during 802.11 teleconferences Motions with 10 days notice are allowed (please contact the Chair) Anyone present can vote or make motions 75% majority required to pass Note this is a one-hour teleconference Agenda Slide 3 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Agenda 1. Call for Secretary 2. Administrative: Reminders, Rules, Guidelines, Resources, Participation 3. Background/Status 4. Technical Report: 1. Status of 802.11 WG comment collection on 11-20/0013r5 Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN , Hyun Seo OH (ETRI), et al. 2. Comment Resolution (Discussion/Contributions) 3. Straw Polls (As required) 4. Technical Report Actions Update 5. Tutorial Review 6. Future Sessions Planning Agenda Slide 4 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. Don t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. Don t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. Technical considerations remain primary focus Don t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. Don t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. Don t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt Agenda Slide 5 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Resources URLs Link to IEEE Disclosure of Affiliation http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html Links to IEEE Antitrust Guidelines http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf Link to IEEE Code of Ethics http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html Link to IEEE Patent Policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Agenda Slide 6 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Participation in IEEE 802 Meetings The IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws require that participants in the IEEE standards development individual process shall act based on their qualifications and experience This means participants: Shall act & vote based on their personal & independent opinions derived from their expertise, knowledge, and qualifications Shall not act or vote based on any obligation to or any direction from any other person or organization, including an employer or client, regardless of any external commitments, agreements, contracts, or orders Shall not direct the actions or votes of other participants or retaliate against other participants for fulfilling their responsibility to act & vote based on their personal & independently developed opinions By participating in this meeting, you are deemed to accept these requirements; if you are unable to satisfy these requirements then you shall immediately cease any participation Agenda Slide 7 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Status on the Proposal on Interworking July 2019 a proposal was made: 11-19/1160r1 Proposal on Interworking between IEEE 802.11 WLAN and 3GPP 5G Core Network Sept 2019 more details: 11-19/1529r1, Objective and scope of technical report on interworking between 5G core network and WLAN November 2019 two contributions were discussed: 11-19/2046r0 The Initial Technical Draft Report on Interworking between 3GPP 5G Network & WLAN - Hyun Seo OH (ETRI) 11-19/1843 - Initial technical draft report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN - Hyun Seo OH (ETRI) January 2020 a contribution was discussed: 11-20/0013r0 Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN - Hyun Seo OH(ETRI) April 2020 two contributions were discussed: 11-20/o013r1 Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN - Hyun Seo OH(ETRI) 11-20/0580r0 Consideration of interworking between 3GPP 5G core and IEEE 802.11 - Max Riegel (Nokia) June 2020 report was discussed: 11-20/0013r2 Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN 6 July 2020 an updated version of the report was discussed 11-20/0013r3 Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN Hyun Seo OH (ETRI) was reviewed and changes were discussed 14 July 2020 11-20/0013r3 Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN , Hyun Seo OH (ETRI), et al. 11-20/1031r0 11-20-0013-03-AANI-draft-technical-report-on-interworking-between-3gpp-5g-network-wlan-Intel-comments , Binita Gupta (Intel), Necati Canpolat (Intel), Carlos Cordeiro (Intel) Agenda Slide 8 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Status on the Proposal on Interworking (cont.) 29 July 2020 11-20/0013r4 Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN , Hyun Seo OH (ETRI), et al. was reviewed. A Straw Poll: Should the AANI SC request a 20 day 802.11 WG comment collection on the Draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network & WLAN" 11-20/0013R4? Yes:15, No:0, Abstain:1, No Answer: 2 30 July 2020 a 20 day 802.11 WG Comment Collection (CC32) on 11-20/0013r5 was launched, completed on 19 August 2020 111 Comments received: 60 technical, 43 editorial, 8 general 25 August 2020 Comment Resolution kicked off - 104 of 111 Comments Assigned 11-20/1262r2 1 September 2020 Comment Resolution: Reviewed proposed comment resolutions in 11-20/1262r3 on technical report: 11-20/0013r5 Reviewed 11-20/1356r0 Proposed comment resolution for CID 10,11, 12, 105 Alternate technical report was briefly reviewed: 11-20/1376r0 15 September 2020 Comment Resolution (see minutes: 11-20/1512r1) one Motion passed 1 October 2020 (see minutes: 11-20/1567) one Straw Poll agreed 8 October 2020 (see minutes: 11-20/1600) two Straw Polls agreed 13 October 2020 ( see minutes: 11-20/1688) Open CIDs reviewed Agenda Slide 9 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Technical Report Actions (from last meeting) 11-20/1645r0 The original figures in the draft technical report on interworking between 3GPP 5G network and WLAN was posted to Mentor Editorial corrections to CID text resolutions still pending 11-20/0013r6 should be posted to Mentor (an update of r5 with motioned resolutions implemented) Contributions with resolutions/text proposal for open CIDs are encouraged. Agenda Slide 10 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Comment Resolution Status 11-20/1262r5 CC32 AANI Report Comments no change Type of comment AssignedProposed Accept Revise Reject SP RFM Motioned M+RFM Open In Document Total Technical 58 58 49 9 0 56 56 0 56 4 0 60 Editorial 43 43 41 2 0 2 2 41 43 0 0 43 General 3 3 3 0 0 3 3 0 3 5 0 8 Grand Total 104 104 61 61 41 102 9 0 111 Agenda Slide 11 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Contributions on Comment Resolution Discussion on: Open Comments (slides 18-22) Comment Resolution Contributions? Agenda Slide 12 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Straw Poll 1 The AANI SC should: Accept the proposed resolutions for the proposed resolutions for the in 11-20- xxxxrx for CIDs: xx with editorial privileges given the AANI Chair. Yes: No: Abstain: No answer: Note: Agenda Slide 13 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Technical Report Actions 11-20/1162r5 CC32 AANI Report Comments : 1) Updated proposed resolutions with editorial corrections 2) ? 11-20/0013r6 should be posted to Mentor (an update of r5 with motioned resolutions implemented) Contributions with resolutions/text proposal for open CIDs are encouraged. Agenda Slide 14 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 802 Tutorial Review Was held on: Oct 13, 2020 10-11:20 AM ET Webex: Mtg Number = 173 869 2585 and the password is 802tutorial The title of the Tutorial: 802.11 WLAN and 3GPP 5G System Interworking Sponsored by: Dorothy Stanley, 802.11 Chair Composite Slide Deck: 11-20/1601r0 Agenda: Welcome and introduction Dorothy STANLEY, see 11-20-1573 Welcome, P&P reminders, attendance reminder, brief remarks on the topic 50 mins -Topic presentations 35-40 minutes 802.11 WLAN and 3GPP 5G System Interworking Binita GUPTA, see 11-20-1579 10-12 mins QoS Considerations - Hyun Seo OH, see 11-20-1562 7-10 mins Work underway & Completed in AANI Joseph LEVY, see 11-20-1574 10 mins Q&A Closing Remarks Dorothy STANLEY Agenda Slide 15 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Future Sessions Planning 802.11 WG Plenary Teleconferences Monday 2 November Tuesday 10 November 2020: AANI SC Scheduled: Monday 2 Nov 11:15-13:15 h ET, Wednesday 4 Nov 19:00-21:00 h ET, Thursday 5 Nov 11:15-13:15 h ET, and Monday 9 Nov 13:30-15:30 h ET Hopefully, CC will complete, and a report will be ready for WG approval or a new CC by the closing plenary. Teleconference Plan (if the Chair is not aware of any planned contributions calls may be cancelled): 1. Tuesday 27 October 9:00-10:00 h ET: Comment resolution Additional Teleconferences Scheduled as required (with 10 days notice) The AANI SC is contribution driven, contributions are requested: 1. Contributions are critical to support the resolution of the comments generated in CC32. 2. Contributions on 802.11 technical performance relative to IMT-2020 requirements 3. Contributions on interworking/integration of 802.11 with the 3GPP Next Generation System 4. In support of 802.1 Nendica Agenda Slide 16 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Open CID Summary BACK-UP SLIDE Agenda Slide 17 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Open: 2 Comments marked for acceptance w/no text changes CIDs: 5 and 7 Comment The sentence states that there is a terminal type (an UE and a STA). However, there is also a separate STA terminal type (see Figure3), so there are really two terminal types. C P C L Proposed Change Modify the scope to state that there are two terminals types: 1) a UE and a STA, 2) a STA Change the text to read "RAN level (layer 2) interworking and CN level (layer 3 and above) interworking [2-4]." T 6 2.223 It may help to explain RAN level and CN level a little more T 7 3.129 Agenda Slide 18 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Open: CID 69 - Technical w/no text changes Comment This technical report has several inaccuracies, misinformation and missing details on the WLAN and 5G interworking as defined by 3GPP in Release 15 and 16. There is major lack of technical accuracy and technical clarity in section 3 and 4. The report is misleading in terms of what functions need to be supported within WLAN to enable interworking. The set of new functions/protocols identified in section 5 to be implemented within WLAN do not accurately represent what needs to be supported in WLAN to enable interworking and are quite misleading. Overall, due to the technical inaccuracies as well as misinformed and misguided nature of the report, this technical report does not serve the purpose of providing a reliable reference for stakeholder/groups interested in enabling WLAN interworking with 5G networks. Agenda Slide 19 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Open: CID 71 - Technical w/no text changes Comment This document has too many issues and misleading information on overall WLAN & 5G integration options, architectures and solutions. It would be very confusing and concerning to publish such a report. Also, please note that there is a parallel related "5G & WLAN RAN Convergence" work at WBA. It is important that we are aware of what is already happening in this space rather than proposing something disregarding them. Agenda Slide 20 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Open: 3 Similar General Comments CIDs: 68, 70, and 80 Comment This technical report does not accurately reflect 5G and WLAN interworking as defined in 3GPP. It is misguided in terms of the new functionality being asked to be added in the WLAN STA and AP to support interworking. It is difficult to understand the report and how to use it to enable the support for interworking with 5G within the WLAN domain. The comment submitter will provide a separate submission on the 5G and WLAN interworking. There are several inaccuracies and misinformation in this technical report related to WLAN integration and interworking with 5G. The TSN architecture as shown for the 5G and WLAN converged network and also for the WLAN only network is incorrect. The recommendations made at the end of the report do not accurately represent what is needed to enable interworking Agenda Slide 21 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
October 2020 doc.: IEEE 802.11-20/1677r0 Open: 2 Similar General Comments CIDs: 72 and 73 Comment In this TR, there is no discussion and evaluation result to show WLAN can support high rate to meet the performance of 5G network vision in the low mobility scenario. And in Table 5, it is also mentioned that 802.11ax MAC can not support 3GPP GBR and delay critical GBR service In this TR, there is no discussion and evaluation result to show WLAN can support high rate to meet the performance of 5G network vision in the low mobility scenario. Moreover, there is no discussion in 3GPP on the interworking between NR and WLAN. Proposed resolution: Reject Comments request additional content that is out of scope of this report and no text proposal has been provided. Agenda Slide 22 Joseph Levy (InterDigital)
