
IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 WG11 March 2025 Meeting Report and Updates
Explore the highlights from the IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 WG11 meeting in March 2025, covering a range of topics including Artificial Intelligence, Architecture, Coexistence, and more. Get insights into the latest developments, technical contributions, and meeting goals discussed during this session.
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March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 WG11 Opening Report Snapshot Slides March 2025 Date: 2025-03-10 Authors: Name Stephen McCann Affiliations Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd Address Southampton, United Kingdom Phone email stephen.mccann@ieee.org Report Slide 1 Stephen McCann, Huawei
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 Abstract This presentation contains the IEEE 802.11 WG snapshot slides for the March 2025 session: Editors Meeting ANA AIML SC (AI and ML) ARC SC (Architecture) Coex SC (Coexistence) PAR Review SC WNG SC (Wireless Next Generation) JTC1 802 SC TGmf (Maintenance) TGbf (WLAN Sensing) TGbi (Enhanced Data Privacy) TGbk (320 MHz Positioning) TGbn (Ultra High Reliability) TGbp (Ambient Power) TGbq (Integrated mmWave) ELC SG (Enhanced Light Communications) AUTO TIG (Automotive) Report Slide 2 Stephen McCann, Huawei
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 March 2025 Editors Meeting Roll Call / Contacts / Reflector Brief status report Amendment alignments and draft development snapshot Review Publication Process Form the publication review committees Editorial Style Guide updates and issues for feedback ANA number spaces Report Slide 3 Robert Stacey, Intel
March 2016 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 ANA Status The latest database is 11-11/0270r77 (March 2025) Changes since January 2025: TGbi allocations Extended subtype (1) Status codes (4) Element ID Extension 1 (1) RSNXE Extended RSN Capabilities (1) dot11smt (1) TGbi released dot11StationConfigEntry (9) released Pending changes (10 day review): None Report Slide 4 Carol Ansley,Cox
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 AIML SC March 2025 Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning March 2025 meeting goals: Minutes approval Technical submissions and discussions: One technical contribution One technical report proposal March 2025 Plenary meeting: 1 slot: operating in ET (Atlanta Time) Wednesday March 12: AM2 Agenda: 11-25/188r0 Report Slide 5 Xiaofei Wang, InterDigital
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 ARC (Architecture) March 2025 Will have three meetings this week: Tuesday PM1; Wednesday AM1; Thursday PM1 Agenda is here: 11-25/0222r1, topics: - IEEE Std 802 revision project update effects on 802.11 Tuesday - Continue technical discussions on next slide - Annex G: Discussion of way forward Wednesday and Thursday - Liaison from WBA on QoS, and L4S Deferred until TGbn and REVmf consider this topic - On hold, pending contribution: MLME-RESET, versus MLME-JOIN, MLME-START, MLME-SCAN and MLME- END One aspect is how MAC address is set/controlled related to IEEE 1609/TGbd Report Slide 6 Mark Hamilton, Ruckus/CommScope
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 ARC (Architecture) March 2025 Related to IEEE Std 802 updates: EPD and LPD terms are going away we need to update 802.11 to align Review MAC address ordering discussion, and 802.11 assumptions 802.1AC mapping from ISS to 802.11 MAC SAP interface Consider any changes to remove 802.2/LLC terms? 802.11 s Portal , and mapping to/usage of IEEE Std 802 terminology Access Domains: 802 Access Domains ? What if we make the DS a bridge (small b )? Consider adding something about VLANs (just informational?) into 802.11? Relationship (if we talk about it) to security domains (e.g. Authenticator relationship)? VLAN-aware STAs? What about GLK/non-GLK STAs? (cf 11-08/0114r0) Report Slide 7 Mark Hamilton, Ruckus/CommScope
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 Coex SC (Coexistence) March 2025 This week (detailed agenda, please see: 11-25/0208) Meeting slot(s) 802.11 Coex SC: Tuesday 10:30 12:30h (AM 2) Thursday 08:00 10:00h (AM 1) Topics ETSI BRAN Update BT SIG Update 802.15.4ab NB Status Update Other topics please respond to the call for submissions / contact the chair Report Slide 8 Marc Emmelmann, Self
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 PAR Review SC Snapshot slide Chair: Jon Rosdahl Mar 10-15, 2025 Atlanta, Georgia, USA P802.1AS - Standard - timing and Synchronization for Time-Sensitive Applications - Revision to IEEE Standard 802.1AS-2020, PAR P802.3dp - Amendment - Cabling Restrictions for Single Pair Power over Ethernet (SPoE), PAR and CSD o P802.11br - Amendment - Enhanced Light Communications, PAR and CSD P802.15 - Standard for Low Rate Wireless Networks - Corrigendum to IEEE Standard 802.15.4- 2024, PAR Review the 3 marked (4 dots) PARs on Monday 13:30-15:30 and then post feedback to 802 LMSC Reflector by Tuesday 18:30. Feedback to be reviewed on Thursday, 10:30-12:30 ET Report Slide 9 Jon Rosdahl, Qualcomm
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 WNG March 2025 11 March 2025, 0800-1000 Eastern Daylight Time Announcements Approval of Previous meeting minutes Minutes from November: https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/24/11-24-1932-00-0wng-wng-meeting-minutes-2024-november-vancouver-meeting.docx Presentations Intrinsic vulnerabilities of the MIMO channel sounding procedure , Francesca Meneghello (Northeastern University) Post-Quantum 802.11 , Dan Harkins (HPE) Post-Quantum Opportunistic Wireless Encryption (OWE) , Alex Lungu (Samsung) 802.11 Support of VLANs , Donald Eastlake (Independent) Plans for May 2025 Chair will make a call for presentations in advance Adjourn Current agenda is document 11-25/0212r0 Report Slide 10 Jim Lansford, Farafir SRL
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 IEEE 802 JTC1 SC will meet once on Tue, 11 March 2025 @ 4 pm EDT Agenda items (ec-25-0017r01) will include the usual : Review of status of PSDO process Review liaisons & notifications of projects to SC 6 Review status of ballots Report Slide 11 Peter Yee, AKAYLA
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 A large number of IEEE 802 submissions are in the PSDO balloting process but Waiting for 60-day ballot IEEE 802-REVc IEEE 802.11ba Failed 60-day ballot IEEE 802.11ay Waiting for FDIS IEEE 802.3-2022 IEEE 802.1Qdj IEEE 802.15.7-2018 IEEE 802.15.3-2023 Passed FDIS ballot (resolutions req) Waiting for publication IEEE .1CS-2020/Cor1 IEEE 802.15.4-2020 IEEE 802.1Qcz IEEE 802.1AEdk IEEE 802.15.9 IEEE 802.1Qcj In 60-day ballot Passed 60-day ballot (resolutions req) IEEE 802.11ax IEEE 802.1Qdx IEEE 802.1ASdm IEEE 802.1ASdn In FDIS IEEE 802.1ASdr Published IEEE 802f IEEE 802.1Qcw IPR issues Report Slide 12 Peter Yee, AKAYLA
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 IEEE 802 has sent 110 standards through the PSDO adoption process, with 28 in-process WG 802.1 802.3 802.11 802.15 802.16 802.19 802.21 802.22 All Completed 54 32 13 4 0 0 3 4 110 In-process 12 8 0 7 0 1 0 0 28 Report Slide 13 Peter Yee, AKAYLA
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGmf (Maintenance) Summary Status: IEEE 802.11-2024 is in the process of publication targeted for the end of March P802.11bh and P802.11be are also in the process of being published as amendments Targeted for April Objectives: Discuss contributions on modifications to the REVme D7.0 draft for consideration in the initial REVmf draft. Discuss contributions on topics involving other amendments under publication. Meetings: Monday March 10, 4-6pm ET Wednesday March 12, 4-6pm ET Report Slide 14 Michael Montemurro, Huawei
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbf (WLAN Sensing) March 2025 Progress since January 2025 session Held 0 teleconference calls The 3rd SA Ballot Recirculation for P802.11bf is closed, and passed Open date 06 Jan 2025, close date 16 Jan 2025 Approval rate: 98% Received 0 comments Goals for March 2025 session 2 slots scheduled for TGbf Approve meeting minutes P802.11bf report to 802 LMSC on Conditional approval to forward draft to RevCom Motion: P802.11bf fourth recirculation SA ballot Motion: TGbf CSD Re-affirmation Motion: P802.11bf Conditional Forward to REVcom Report Slide 15 Tony Xiao Han, Huawei
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 F2F meeting March Plenary 2025, Confirmed: Monday Tuesday Wednesday Thursday AM 1 AM 2 PM 1 PM 2 EVE Opening TGbf TGbf Mid week Atlanta Beijing Central Europe Israel Eastern Pacific AM1 AM2 08:00-10:00 10:30-12:30 21:00-23:00 23:30-01:30 14:00-16:00 16:30-18:30 15:00-17:00 17:30-19:30 09:00-11:00 11:30-13:30 06:00-08:00 08:30-10:30 PM1 PM2 13:30-15:30 16:00-18:00 02:30-04:30 05:00-07:00 19:30-21:30 22:00-24:00 20:30-22:30 23:00-01:00 14:30-16:30 17:00-19:00 11:30-13:30 14:00-16:00 EVE 19:30-21:30 08:30-10:30 01:30-03:30 02:30-04:30 20:30-22:30 17:30-19:30 Report Slide 16 Tony Xiao Han, Huawei
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbi March 2025 TGbi has an approved draft with an approval rate of 89%! We received 1072 comments in the comment collection. Current status is: Ready for Motion Resolution Approved Unassigned Assigned 16 1056 -- -- There are 4 sessions planned in the March Plenary for TGbi. Monday PM2 Tuesday PM2 Wednesday AM2 Thursday AM1 The agenda is available as 802.11-25/255r0. Report Slide 17 Carol Ansley, Cox
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbk 320MHz Positioning TG is charted to extend the Fine Timing Measurement (FTM) procedure to the 320MHz 802.11be waveforms and channelization. 1st recirculation SA ballot completed Feb 7th : Approval rate: 96%. Received 21 comments: 13 T / 8 E. Targets for the IEEE week: Complete response to 1st SA recirculation. Approve 2nd recirculation targeting unchanged draft. Approve report to EC requesting conditional approval to forward draft to RevCom. Report Slide 18 Jonathan Segev, Intel
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbk 320MHz Positioning Future scheduled telecons: Tue. March 18th 10:00 am PT/13:00 ET (2hrs) Report Slide 19 Jonathan Segev, Intel
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbn (Ultra High Reliability) Since the January interim Held 6 telcos between January 2025 and March 2025 (11-25/0207r11) Discussed ~40 submissions, 3 PDTs, ran ~ 5 straw polls covering a variety of topics Coordinated spatial reuse (CSR), non-primary channel access (NPCA), multi-AP framework (MAP), Distributed resource units (DRUs), coordinated RTWT, coordinated TDMA (C-TDMA), roaming,sounding, Coordinated beamforming (CBF), interference mitigation, stream classification service (SCS), security, TXOP sharing, coexistence, dynamic subchannel operation (DSO),low latency, etc. Started/closed comment collection (CC50) on TGbn D0.1 (~4000 comments, 11-25/0296) Targets for March plenary Complete comment assignment of comments from CC50 and initiate comment resolution phase Presentation of proposed draft texts (PDTs), comment resolution (CR), and technical submissions ~150 pending submissions and ~25 pending SPs on presented submissions, Continue populating the TGbn SFD with approved concepts Work towards delivering TGbn D1.0. Agenda is available in 11-25/0221r1 Slide 20 Report Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbn March F2F Schedule Monday TGbn [PHY/MAC] Opening Plenary Tuesday WNG Wednesday TGbn [PHY/MAC] TGbq Thursday TGbn [PHY/MAC] TGbq AM 1 AM 2 TGbn [PHY/MAC] TGbn [PHY/MAC] TGbn [PHY/MAC] PM 1 Mid-Week Plenary TGbn [PHY/MAC] TGbn PM 2 TGbn TGbn EVE Report Slide 21 Alfred Asterjadhi, Qualcomm
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbp TGbp Snapshot for IEEE 802 Mar Snapshot for IEEE 802 Mar Plenary 2025 Plenary 2025 Chair: Vice Chair: Bo Sun (Sanechips) Steve Shellhammer (Qualcomm) Rakesh Taori (Infineon) Secretary: Sebastian Max (Ericsson) Tech Editor: Yinan Qi (OPPO) Report Slide 22 Bo Sun, Sanechips
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbp Snapshot for Mar 2025 IEEE 802 Plenary 3 TGbp teleconfrences were held since Jan interim session, focusing on review of updatd SFD and open tech discussion, with agenda included in 11-25/0227r3 and meeting minutes included in 11-25/0240r2 . 8 TGbp meetings are planned during the IEEE 802 Mar plenary session, with a full meeting agenda included in the latest revision of 11-24/0228. Notes, all TGbp meetings will be in conference room 3. Mon Tue Wed Thu Fri AM1 (8:00~10:00) Closing Plenary TGbp TGbp AM2 (10:30~12:30) 802.11 Opening Plenary TGbp PM1 (13:30~15:30) Mid-week Plenary TGbp TGbp (Opening) (SP/Motions/Closing) PM2 (16:00~18:00) TGbp TGbp TGbp EVE (19:30~21:30) Goal for TGbp meetings in this week: open technical discussion and improve FRD/SFD documents based on consensus Report Slide 23 Bo Sun, Sanechips
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbp Timeline Mar 2025 plenary PAR approved Mar 2024 First TG meeting May 2024 D0.1 (ready for CC) Mar, 2025 D1.0 Letter Ballot Feb, 2026 D2.0 LB recirculation Nov, 2026 Form SA Ballot Pool Mar 1 to Mar 31, 2027 Initial SA Ballot (D4.0) Aug, 2027 Final 802.11 WG approval Jan 2028 802 EC approval Mar 2028 RevCom and SASB approval May 2028 Report Slide 24 Bo Sun, Sanechips
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 TGbq (Integrated mmWave) Summary Status: Kickoff meeting was held on 26 February 2025 Jonghoe Koo is appointed as secretary Objectives: Editor appointment Vice chair election and confirmation Discuss contributions on scope, timeline, and operation aspect of the project Discuss technical contributions Meetings: Wednesday AM2 (10:30am ET to 12:30pm ET), 12 March Thursday AM2 (10:30am ET to 12:30pm ET), 13 March For details, please refer to the agenda 25/0205 Report Slide 25 Edward Au, Huawei
March 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 ELC SG March 2025 Enhanced Light Communications March 2025 meeting goals Minutes approval January 2025 Kobe Interim meeting minutes: 11-25/0160r2 Technical submissions and discussions: Comment resolution on the draft ELC PAR (doc. 11-25/0185r0) Comments resolution on the draft ELC CSD (doc. 11-24/1600r3) March 2025 meeting: Three meeting slots: Tuesday AM1 & EVE (19:30-21:30) Thursday WED AM1 Agenda: 11-25/0347r0 Report Slide 26 Volker Jungnickel, Fraunhofer HHI
March 2025 doc.: IEEE 802.11-25/0216r1 Automotive TIG March 2025 11 March, 1330-1530 Eastern Daylight Time Call to order IEEE-SA policies and procedures Approval of minutes from January https://mentor.ieee.org/802.11/dcn/25/11-25-0159-00-auto-january-2025- kobe-auto-tig-meeting-minutes.docx Presentation of submissions IEEE 802.11ai and IEEE 802.11bc for Automotive Use , Hitoshi Morioka (SRC Software) Hybrid MLD for Automotive , Federico Lovison (Cisco) Automotive-TIG-Thoughts on PHY improvements , Azin Neishaboori (General Motors) Proposed IEEE802.11 Automotive TIG Technical Report Text on Regional HD Map Updates use case, Jing Ma (Toyota) Call for submissions - May 2025 Timeline review Any other business Current agenda is 11-25/0213r0 Report Slide 27 Jim Lansford, Farafir SRL