IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG Closing Report
This document presents the closing report of the IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications Technical Advisory Group (TAG) meeting held in November 2021. The report covers various topics discussed during the meeting, including agenda review, approval of minutes, updates on white papers, and discussions on IoT topics such as low latency and personal device integration. The document also includes information on upcoming sessions and member participation preferences for future meetings.
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Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG Closing Report November 10, 2021 Submission Slide 1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 802.24 Overview Officers TAG Chair: Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Task Groups 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG 802.24.2 IoT TG 30 Voting Members Tim Godfrey Ben Rolfe Tim Godfrey Chris DiMinico Submission Slide 2
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 Agenda Call session to order, present Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda Approve minutes from prior TAG meeting Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting / Liaison Updates Low Latency White Paper Review of IoT white paper development Contribution 802.24-21-0017r0 "IEEE 802 Solutions for Vertical Applications" White Paper 802.24 new vertical market outreach and engagement Submission Slide 3 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 802.24 TAG Approve September TAG teleconference minutes 802.24-21-0014r0 Action Items from September Alan submission to kick off discussion on IoT topic - done 802.24-21-0017r0 Tim: clean copy of Low Latency White Paper done 2019-0003r11 Submission Slide 4 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 Straw Poll on March 2022 meeting 1. If the 2022 March Plenary Session is held in Orlando, Florida as an in-person only session, will you attend? Yes 6 / No 1 / did not answer 4 2. If the 2022 March Plenary Session is held in Orlando, Florida as a mixed-mode session, will you attend: a) Attend In-person - 7 b) Attend Virtually (remotely) 1 c) Will not attend plenary 0 Did not answer 3 * The plan is for the registration fee to be the same for in-person or remote participants Submission Slide 5 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 Low latency White Paper Latest version with accepted revisions and open items highlighted: 802.24-19-0003r12 Action items embedded Tim will reach out to 802.11 for contributions on 11be and 11bd Submission Slide 6 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 November discussion on What is IoT Presentation of contribution: 802.24-21-0017r0 Personal devices can be IoT, depending on use case Should IoT be internets of things not necessarily the public Internet how to capture this concept Concept of satellite devices that hang off the Personal (core) device to enhance them and provide additional data. A hidden part of fabric of IoT Personal devices have user interaction and also silent activities based on sensors. Do they have sensors? Location, movement, etc. White Paper what is the goal and message related to IEEE 802, IoT, and Verticals? We can present a broader view of IoT. What are the hidden IoT devices that may include IEEE 802 standards but are not well known. IoT has become so much broader, the original paper is not relevant. Action Ben will make a first cut at a functional definition for IoT for next meeting (Alan and Allan will help) Submission Slide 7 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 "IEEE 802 Solutions for Vertical Applications" Pending WBA liaison review (did not happen in November ) Single Pair Ethernet should be included Max has ideas Post SPE white paper draft May be applicable Review overall language to ensure scope is wired+wireless Next Steps Update with these comments - uploaded 802.24-19-0017r7. Max will add some text regarding use of SPE Submission Slide 8 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 Vertical Applications Industry Standards 802.24 serving as an opportunity for vertical markets and stakeholders (transportation, oil/gas, etc) engage with IEEE 802 and identify relevant standards gaps that we result in new projects. Are representatives of these groups already involved in IEEE 802, or is some form of outreach needed? Discussion / Ideas List Location Services are cross-cutting in many vertical markets. Medical/Geriatrics could apply to 802.11az, 802.11bf, and 802.15.4 UWB (4z, 4ab, and successors) Coexistence issues products being designed without appreciation for coexistence with existing standards. Smaller vendors need to be engaged to understand value of standards to avoid problems in deployment. Is there a place for IEEE to engage with forums D-Tech, UTC. Customers need to advocate with their suppliers to adopt standards to avoid problems. The lost step of certification not just the standards. Home health care? Emerging market, new companies entering. Strong tie-in with IoT, with data-gathering devices. (implications on reliability, security) Continue to promote that 802.24 is a venue for vertical stakeholders to initiate standardization 802.24 would function as an all-802 TIG for identifying and clarifying standardization needs for vertical markets Review of IEEE 802 New Activities Brainstorming meeting from Nov 3, 2021. Primary results was a review of how WNG activates work in the WGs. We did not brainstorm any new approaches. Role for 802.24 to help identify the new applications, determine the fit for IEEE 802, and the best WG to address. Possible follow-up brainstorming session on December focus on the external outreach and identifying verticals. How to make WNG groups work better Submission Slide 9 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 Future TAG Activity Planning Keep a prioritized list revisit when F2F meetings resume A whitepaper/document for application-specific use cases of Sub 1GHz standards 802.15.4g and 802.11ah. How use mechanisms in 802.19.3 Can this also include applying 802.15.4s in sub-1GHz spectrum? IETF: Reliable and Available Wireless keep tabs on this 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413 Update of first Smart Grid white paper to address latest amendments of 802.15.4 u, v, w, x, y, Revmd, transition to 802.15.15 Submission Slide 10 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Nov 2021 doc.: IEEE 802.24-21-0019r0 802.24 TAG closing Action Items Low Latency - 802.24-19-0003r11 Cyber Security section (Allan Jones), 802.15.3 (Ben Rolfe), Request contribution on 802.11be and 11bd from 802.11 (Tim Godfrey) IoT Ben will make a first cut at a functional definition for IoT for next meeting (Alan and Allan will help) 802 solutions for vertical Max will add some text regarding use of SPE to updated draft in 802.24-19-0017r7 Next Meeting January Interim: Plan a slot PM2 Wednesday, avoid 802.18 and 15.4ab Submission Slide 11 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
