IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Vertical Applications TAG November 2018 Closing Report
This document provides a detailed overview of the IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG meeting held in November 2018 in Bangkok, Thailand. The report includes agendas, discussions on smart grid and IoT, liaison coordination, action items, and more.
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November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG November 2018 Closing Report Bangkok, Thailand Submission Slide 1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 802.24 Overview Officers TAG Chair: Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Task Groups 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG 802.24.2 IoT TG 26 Voting Members Agenda: 24-18-0024-04-0000 Meetings for the Week Tuesday PM2 Wednesday PM2 Thursday PM2 Tim Godfrey Ben Rolfe Tim Godfrey Chris DiMinico 24.1 24.2 24.1 Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members Submission Slide 2
Agenda 802.24-18-0024r4 November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 24-18-0024-04-0000 802.24 Agenda - November 2018, Bangkok, Thailand 1 Tuesday PM2 session 1.1 1.2 1.3 1.4 1.5 1.6 1.7 Call session to order, present Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings , Quorum Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda Approve minutes from prior TAG meeting Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting Liaison Review 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group ITU and regulatory items Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey 5 5 5 5 4:00 PM 4:05 PM 4:10 PM 4:15 PM 4:20 PM 4:35 PM 15 0 Godfrey/Holcomb Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey Godfrey/Farkas 15 15 15 0 30 4:35 PM 4:50 PM 5:05 PM 5:05 PM 6:00 PM 1.8 1.9 2 2.1 Review and resolve comments on TSN White Paper comment collection New Activity Planning Recess Joint Meeting with 802.1 TSN 2 Wednesday PM2 session 2.1 2.2 2.3 2.4 2.5 Call to Order 802.24 TAG Discussion on "Network Integration" action item from EC leadership meeting Call to Order 802.24.2 IoT Task Group 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report DiMinico Godfrey DiMinico DiMinico 0 4:00 PM 4:30 PM 5:00 PM 5:00 PM 30 0 15 Collaboration (informal liaison) with Wi-Fi Alliance on IoT Use Cases) Review of IoT white paper development DiMinico/Godfrey DiMinico 15 15 5:15 PM 5:30 PM 2.6 2.7 Discussion on plan and new activities for IoT task group and broader engagement Recess DiMinico/Godfrey Godfrey 15 0 5:45 PM 6:00 PM 2.8 3 Thursday PM2 session 3.1 3.2 3.3 Call to Order 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group Comments and feedback from NIST on Smart Grid Wireless Standards Matrix Any incoming comments from IEEE PES PSCC S6 Task Force regarding 802.24 contribution to "Standards for integrating Home Automation IoT to Power Utilities Communication System" Godfrey Godfrey 0 4:00 PM 4:00 PM 30 Godfrey 15 4:30 PM Liasion Discussion of IEC SEG8 report "Monitoring and impact assessment of emerging technologies and architectures" Coordination with 802.19 on 802.15.4g and 802.11ah Coexistence project 3.4 Godfrey Godfrey/Rolfe Godfrey Godfrey 30 20 10 0 4:45 PM 5:15 PM 5:35 PM 5:45 PM 3.5 3.6 3.7 Submission 802.24 New Action Items, New Activities, AOB Adjourn Slide 3 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 802.24 TAG Approve September minutes 24-18-0021r0 Approved with unanimous consent TAG Action Items from September: Send Sub-1GHz white paper back to Tanya at IEEE for publishing. Completed Farrokh Khatibi will provide introduction to ATIS group for liaison - Pending Submission Slide 4 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Sub 1 GHz White Paper Returned to Tanya at IEEE with approval to publish Submission Slide 5 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Tuesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Submission Slide 6 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 ITU and Radio Regulatory Items Update from 802.18 Jay Holcomb Discussion 1.4 GHz spectrum recently announced is being used for telemetry in oil/gas industry with 802.16s Traditional license model geographic ownership Part 90 Submission Slide 7 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 TSN White Paper 802.1 TSN interested parties joining 802.24 for this meeting slot Comment Collection The 802.24 TAG and 802.1 TSN TG solicit comments on 802.24-18-0011-00- sgtg "Utility Applications of Time Sensitive Networking White Paper" Comment submittal spreadsheet provided Combined Comments Document None submitted Updated White Paper Version with comments: 802.24-18-0022-01-sgtg Clean Version D2: 802.24-18-0022-02-sgtg Extend call for comments until next joint meeting March 2019 Submission Slide 8 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 New Activity: Low latency White Paper Achieving low latency with IEEE 802 standards Including wired and wireless communications An alternative (or complement) to 5G URLLC A set of vertical applications enabled by low latency The challenges of reliable low latency in unlicensed spectrum. Adapting TSN s FRER feature Adapting 802 wireless to licensed spectrum? Operating over multiple bands or channels? Special cases for high data rates for immersive video Several people interested in contributing Action: Post call for contributions Start reviewing contributions in January Submission Slide 9 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Network Integration action item Action assigned from 802 EC leadership conference in July. Discussion on role and positioning of IEEE 802 in standards, especially with respect to 3GPP and the publicity on 5G What is meant by Network Integration? Does the IEEE 802 architecture provide a unique value to vertical market? Is IEEE 802 more suited to deployment in the communication infrastructure of private enterprise, industry, and the individual user? (Compared to 3GPP, which is more oriented towards service providers?) The IEEE 802 architecture enables networks that are like Ethernet: Well understood, mature, predictable. A cleaner integration of disparate technologies under the common architecture and addressing. Can we develop a clearer definition and description of this distinction and the value for the user / implementer? Can this be developed into a white paper? Submission Slide 10 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Contribution Thoughts on IEEE 802 network integration with respect to P802.1CF 24-18-0026r0 Max Riegel Submission Slide 11 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Discussion on Network Integration Based on many discussions of the place of 802.11 in 5G. 5G SC Conclusions AANI integrating 802.11 into 5G domain. Nothing corresponding in 3GPP Industry connections NENDICA Flexible Factory IoT, Data Center Bridging What s missing a picture of 802 as a peer to 5G 5G promises they will do everything But, they don t do anything wired 5G requires an extensive PLMN to support it. It is designed to help the cellular operator grow their market Verticals might not want an operator in the middle of their network Value proposition: 802 networks are customer-owned Example Santa Clara Emergency services issues Next steps develop contribution and notes into an outline for possible white paper Submission Slide 12 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 802.24.2 Status and development of IoT White paper 802.24-17-0036r2 Ludwig is developing some related materials. Can we pull new developments from P2413 into this white paper? Start Single Pair Ethernet white paper through IEEE process 802.24-18-0011r0 Comment collection on reflector TIA and IEC standards related to SPE and IoT TIA TR42 report to 802.3, ISO IEC SC25 Power over Ethernet UL and NEC are getting involved Submission Slide 13 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Wireless Matrix Feedback and questions have come in from SEPA and NIST IEEE Std 802.11ah: Revised column based on 802.11ah-2016 IEEE Std 802.11, 802.11ac, 802.11n: Revised column heading IEEE 802.15.4 HRP-UWB Reviewed column and edited Uploaded commented version: 24-18-0028-00-sgtg-wireless-characteristics-matrix-update- 2018-08-29-Draft-dot24edits.xlsx Submission Slide 14 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 Liaison with IEC SEG8 Scope of SEG8: Assess, provide an overview and prioritization of the evolution of technical development and standardization in the field of communication technologies and architectures The report includes aspects relevant to both Smart Grid and IoT. Document shared in 802.24 Private Area IEC_SEG8_Deliverable2_draft_181118_ext_cl ean.pdf Submission Slide 15 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 IEC SEG8 Document review and discussion Key chapters relevant to input from 802.24 IoT Technologies Single-pair Ethernet (SPE) Deterministic Networking Low-Power Wide-Area Networks (LPWAN) V2V, V2I, V2P and V2N communication technologies Updated version uploaded to private area with annotations IEC_SEG8_Deliverable2_draft_181118_ext_(dot24 annotations 2018-11-15).pdf Call for other 802 WGs to participate in review and provide comments Submission Slide 16 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
November 2018 doc.: IEEE 802.24-18-0027r0 802.24 TAG closing Action Items from this meeting Put Sub 1 GHz white paper on 802.24 web site Update Call for Comments on TSN Call for comments on SEG8 document Any New Business? Submission Slide 17 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
