
IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG Meeting March 2017 Summary
Detailed overview of the IEEE 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG meeting held in March 2017 in Vancouver, BC, Canada. The meeting agenda, key discussions, task groups, officers, and action items are outlined. Various topics such as Smart Grid, IoT, industry connections, and web page updates were covered during the meeting.
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Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG March 2017 Meeting Vancouver, BC, Canada Submission Slide 1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 802.24 Overview Officers TAG Chair: Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Task Groups 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG 802.24.2 IoT TG 34 Voting Members Agenda: 24-17-0007-01-0000 Meetings for the Week Monday PM2 Tuesday PM2 Wednesday PM2 (2nd hour to join with 802.1 TSN) Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members Tim Godfrey Ben Rolfe Tim Godfrey Chris DiMinico Submission Slide 2
Agenda - 24-17-0007-00-0000 Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 802.24 Agenda - March 2017, Vancouver, BC, Canada 24-17-0007-00-0000 1 Monday PM2 session 1.1 Godfrey 5 4:00 PM Call session to order, present Guidelines for IEEE SA meetings , Quorum 1.2 Review of Agenda / Approval of Agenda Godfrey 5 4:05 PM 1.3 Approve January TAG minutes 24-17-0003-00-0000 Godfrey 5 4:10 PM 1.4 Introduction/meeting objectives / Review action items from previous meeting Godfrey 5 4:15 PM 1.5 802.24 Web Page content update, and relationship with Industry Connections Godfrey 4:20 PM 30 1.6 802.24.1 Smart Grid Task Group Godfrey 4:50 PM 0 1.7 Godfrey/Lynch/Ke nnedy ITU and regulatory items 4:50 PM 10 1.8 Updating SGIP PAP2 Wireless Matrix 24-17-0004-01-sgtg Godfrey 5:00 PM 30 1.9 Recess Godfrey 0 5:30 PM 2 Tuesday PM2 session 2.1 Call to Order DiMinico 4:00 PM 0 2.2 802.24.2 IoT Task Group business DiMinico 4:00 PM 0 2.3 20 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report Diab 4:00 PM 2.4 20 P2413 Liaison Report Winkel 4:20 PM 2.5 Review and plan IoT white paper development DiMinico 4:40 PM 45 0 2.6 Recess DiMinico 5:25 PM 3 Wednesday PM2 session 3.1 Call to Order Liaison Report from P2030.5 802.24 closing - action items, plans Move to 802.1 TSN room Godfrey Heile Godfrey 4:00 PM 4:00 PM 4:10 PM 4:20 PM 0 3.2 10 10 10 3.3 3.4 3.5 Meet with 802.1 TSN on White Paper for Time Sensitive Networks for Grid Modernization Adjourn Godfrey / Parsons 4:30 PM 5:30 PM 60 0 3.6 Submission Slide 3 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Monday: 802.24 TAG Approve January minutes 24-17-0003-00-0000 Approved with unanimous consent TAG Action Items: Tim will post reminder for contribution on IoT to reflector Done Ludwig will post Word version 24-15-36r1 Done 24-17-0005r0 Submission Slide 4 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Web Page Review http://www.ieee802.org/24/ Web Page Updated Submission Slide 5 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Industry Connections Process IEEE-SA has created an Industry Connections activity, with an initiation process: ICAID: Industry Connections Activity Initiation Document References http://standards.ieee.org/develop/indconn/activitie s.html https://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/iccom/iccom _opsman.pdf Tutorial on IC in 802 by John D Ambrosia Submission Slide 6 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Discussion points 802.24 has been asked to consider how its work relates to Industry Connections: Should there be a relationship between 802.24 and Industry Connections? Formal or informal? Is there a benefit for broader connection and exposure within IEEE-SA? Could IC help our projects with better coordination? Notes: recently. The ICCom has 4 meetings per year. IC appears to have started in 2013 or 2014, but 802 was not involved until Decisions: When we initiate a new project, 802.24 will consider whether to engage with IC. 802.24 will examine (or liaison with) IC Committee to determine if we want to be involved with any existing IC activities. 802.24 has been introduced to Rudi Schubert for coordination. Further Discussion Could we expand the scope or add to existing IC projects? Specifically providing 802-specific input. Submission Slide 7 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Monday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Submission Slide 8 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 ITU and Radio Regulatory Items No regulatory items related to 802.24 currently known. Submission Slide 9 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Update of PAP2 Wireless Matrix History: Latest version 802.24-17-0004r1 SGIP Study Group has been formed for Matrix update 802.24 will provide updated data for 802 standards Submission Slide 10 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Update Plan Owners for updating (in coordination with WGs) 802.16 column Tim Godfrey, Harry Bims. Remove 16m (done) Add 16s (done) 802.11ah Yongho delegated to Alfred Asterjadhi (column provided and added) Question identified about spectrum efficiency of 11ac to be investigated (TBD) 802.15.4 column (Ruben Salazar) Done 802.22 Column received from Apurva incorporated into 24-17-0004r2 Open Issues: Average uplink cell spectral efficiency Should it be N/A because it is not sector/cell based. Action to coordinate with 802.11 to find answers. Mbps/Hz (802.11 values, Submission Slide 11 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Notes on Editing Y23: Need to determine spectral efficiency and formula Open Issues: Average uplink cell spectral efficiency Mbps/Hz (802.11 values) Should it be N/A because it is not sector/cell based. Submission Slide 12 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Tuesday 802.24.2 IoT TG Submission Slide 13 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Discussion on 802.15 IG DEP Explore collaboration with 802.3 Explore collaboration with 802.11 Consider Licensed spectrum. Submission Slide 14 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Monday: 802.24.2 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report Wael Diab Not Available IIC Liaison Report Any new liaison requests Request to explore liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Group. 802.24 will initiate the liaison request (Action Wael) Submission Slide 15 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 802.24.2 P2413 Liaison Report Ludwig Winkel Working as fast as possible on thin draft In WG Review currently. Decision in next meeting late March. April to June - circulate document to liaison partners before publishing When this become available, 802.24 will notify members on the reflector. Not decided if it will be published as draft or edition 1. We will plan on more in-depth discussion in Berlin. To harmonize IEEE work with other bodies ISO IEC JTC1 new SC 41. Action plan additional slot for 24.2 in Berlin to discuss the P2413 draft. Invite automotive tutorial team to participate. Relationship to 24.2 IoT White Paper Can be use to explain to the 802 community how 802 fits into the overall IoT architecture Submission Slide 16 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 802.24.2 Review and plan IoT white paper development Chris DiMinico Discussion on IoT White Paper Draft 24-15-36r1 No updates since November Call for text contributions from members for this draft. Add a section to identify target markets and use cases (at high level), and map them to other standards/organizations, and to the relevant 802 standards. Also include IEC work in TSN profiles for industrial automation, and TC 65 (smart manufacturing) and TC 57 for utilities. Coordinate with TSN white paper. Profiles to improve compatibility select the necessary functionality from 802.1 amendments in multiple application domains. Submission Slide 17 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Submission Slide 18 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Outline of TSN white paper Captured as 802.24-17-0006r0 https://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/dcn/17/24-17-0006- 00-sgtg-tsn-utility-applications-white-paper.docx Update for this meeting posted as 802.24-17-0006r1 Submission Slide 19 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Development Text contributions to the outline were requested by reflector Review any contributions Continue call for contributions Submission Slide 20 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 802.24 TAG closing Capture action Items from this meeting 1) Wael: Initiate Liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT TG 2) Tim plan additional meeting slot for 24.2 in Berlin to discuss the P2413 draft. Invite automotive tutorial team to participate. 3) Tim: Wireless Matrix: Coordinate with 802.11 to find spectral efficiency details Any New Business? None Adjourn to 802.1 TSN (17:00) Saturna Island Room, Discovery Floor, Fairmont Hotel Submission Slide 21 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Submission Slide 22 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Future Opportunities Tracking (1) 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413? Maybe more towards completion of P2413? Agnostic to underlying communications, but applicable to all 802 standards. Highlight the relationship between P2413 and 802 standards. (status as of March 2017 wait until Thin Draft is available) Submission Slide 23 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Future Opportunities Tracking (2) 802.15.12 ULI Eventually, we can explain how it relates to the rest of 802, and better integration. Well defined ways of integrating. Take this up when there is a draft 802.15.4s SMR spectrum management resources Can 802.24 provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT? IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems ETSI TCERM WG 41 defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum. Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS Coordinate with 802.22.3 (TBD check with Apurva) Action Plan: Coordinate with ULI initiative 4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used Status March 2017 preparing for sponsor ballot White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished. Including use of metrics for management. Submission Slide 24 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Future Opportunities Tracking (3) Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to 802.24? Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards serve, and provide them to the industry. That can then define who is an appropriate liaison Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify the tools we have available, and present the available toolbox. Submission Slide 25 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Other Future Opportunities Monitor the LPWAN IG in 802.15 to see where it goes (and links to IETF) Report will outline use cases and technologies, and gaps. May form a SG TBD what the cross-WG aspect is. There may need to be even narrower band PHYs 24.1 should analyze the low-power utility use cases and application of LPWAN. Submission Slide 26 Tim Godfrey, EPRI
Mar 2017 doc.: IEEE 802.24-17-00010r0 Others Submission Slide 27 Tim Godfrey, EPRI